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Aaro Jansson
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1/ Muistamme miten aikoinaan asbesti oli tie loistavaan tulevaisuuteen.
Koska kyseessä oli suoranainen Venäjän lahja maailman teollisuudelle. Tämä
aine ratkaisi keksimisensä jälkeen suoranaisen leegion tekniikkaan
pesiytyneitä lukuisia ongelmia. Asbestista haluttiin tehdä jopa lakanoita,
koska näin estettiin palot joita syntyi valtaisasti sängyssä tupakoinneista.
Miljoonat jarrupalat olivan mailman turvan tae, jne.. Asbesti oli
kertakaikkiaan erinomainen ja turvallinen aine vuosikymmenestä toiseen,
kunnes... ..!
2/ Aikoinaan freon vapautti maailman kuivuvista, läikkyvistä, huonosti
toimivista tölkeistä. Tuotti puhdasta ja turvallista elintarviketta
määrättömästi jääkaapeissaan. Freoniin luotti niin eristeteolisuus,
hiuslakkafirmat, kuin henkilökemikaalituotannot naiskaunmeuteen asti,
liuotinmaailmat, kuin sen TARKOIN tiedettyyn turvallisuuteen ja
vaarattomuuteen luotettin jopa lääkinnällisiä sumutteita myöten. 60-luvun
vallankumouksen eräs taattu kulmakivi. Ja ennen kaikkea oli niin
perusteellisin tutkien todettu vaarattomiksi sen kaikki ilmentymät, että
kunnes .. ..!
3/ DDT oli aikansa legenda. Täysin vaarattomana se vapautti sotien
kasvattamista hyönteisinvaasioista. Poisti malariat, punataudit, loiset
kaikialta ja syöpäläiskiusat niin kodista, kuin puutarhoista. Halpaa
huviketta vaikka maailmat täyteen, made by maailman mahtavin USA osasi
kaupata ja suorittaa myynit. Niin oli DDT pelastava koko kurjan maailman.
Kunnes tuotettiin ihan vaan silkkaa ilkeyttä viritelty kirjafiasko.
"Hiljainen kevät!.. ..Paskanmarjat tiedettiin , kukas noita nyt uskoi moisia
huuhakkeita inttämineen. Kun rahaisat insinöörit osasi miljoonasti enemmän..
..!
4/Maailman energiamonopolien kuningasajatuas oli vaikka nyt
nakutuksenestoaine lyijyinen hermomyrkky. Toki jo Rokkefellerin
bensiini-impperiumi tiesi tarkoin, että vaihtoehtoja nakutuksen estoon olisi
vaikka vaarattomampi biopohjainen alkoholi. Ja sitä jonkinaikaa kilpailijat
kauppasi. Mutta kun USA:n hallitus tajusi bensiinin pyörittävän maailmaa ja
oivalsi sen monopoliarvon päätettiin syrjäyttää alkoholin yksityiskäyttäjät
häskisti. Tuttua tapaako? No taatusti! Pian varmistettiin
lyijyhermomyrkkybensiinillä se, että maailma täytetään tulevan vuosisadan
tällä eräälä maailman vaarallisimmmalla supermyrkyllä. Kaikki
bensiiniammattilaiset kyllä sairasteli töissään, mutta kuka uskalsi purnata
työnantajaansa? Mitään painoarvoa vaaran suhteen ei toki testein nähty,
koska JUURI vaarallisuus takasi sen, ettei kukaan nyksityinen voisi
valtiomonopolibisneksiä pilata tiukissa turvamääreissä. Vasta kun
kaupunkilaisnmuorissa 70-luvun energiakriisin alta tavatiin huikeaa 30%
suuruusluokan älykkyysvajetta myrkytyksistä alettiin panikoida. Silloin oli
maapalloa tuhottu mitä lienee 66,6v, kunnes massojen tapposysteemille alkoi
tulla seinä pystöön. No nyt kukaan ei halua edes muistella miksi Antarktista
myöten maailmamme kerrustelee lyijyhermomyrkkyjen takia.. ..!
5/ Vaan kaiken huippu on tietysi no, TAAS kerran täysin virheetön ja mitään
haittavaikutusta tekemätöntä enerkiaansa puurtavaa.. ..ydinvoima. Ja jos nyt
joku Pekka Jauho, mitään tietämätön Albert Einstein, tai vaikka K.V.
Laurikainen jotain aikoinaan koetti vihjaista ydinsäteilyn mitatuista
kasautumisista biotooppeihin kohtalokkaasti ja joku Nobelisti pari kertoili
kirjoissaan Ajzenberginm laboraatiotodisteista säteilyn megatappokyvyistä
kavaluuksineen. Niin ei tällaisin kannata kajota. Mitä lienee
haihattelijoita edelläkerrotut, kun ei juhli pian 66,6vuottaan
miljoonatappokasoillaan riehuvaa ydinvoimaa, niin olkoon väkivoimin
valtiotoimin vaiettu kuoliaaksi! IAEA ei totta tosiaan STUK/SUPO:n kanssa
halua rahantuotolleen realisoijia ja haittaajia! Niin .. kunnes. .. kerran
paljastuu ihmiskunnan maailmalta miltei täysin pyyhkivin seuraamuksin. Jo
pitkään ja kauan varoituksiaan kaikkialle esitellyt. ..no arvatkaas .. .. ! |
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Järvenpää
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:53 am Post subject: Oi vittu kun joskus se rasittaa |
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T&T.Varavoima [Jarmo Seppälä, 04.06.2008]
"Uusi ydinvoimala vaatii nopeaa häiriöreserviä
Kantaverkkoyhtiö Fingrid käynnistää varavoimakapasiteetin rakentamisen
yva-menettelyn loppukesästä. Fingrid varautuu lähivuosina lisäämään nopeaa
häiriöreserviä 100-400 megawatilla. "
*Äärimmäisen mielenkiintoinen tieto muuten! Tähän asti kun ydinvoiman
pakollista +10% alati pyörivän tukisäätövoiman olemassaoloa
IAEA/USA-lainsäädännössämme kun on tiedotusvuotona varjeltu julkisuudelta
kuin kruunun jalokiveä. Mutta kas, KAS näin vaan Fennovoimalta se MYÖS
vaaditaan! Ja huomatkaa nyt määrä! Kerroin, että JATKUVAA säätöapuvoimaa
menee 10% ensinnä hukkaan kiinailmiöestoreserveihin ja sitten toinen mokoma
päälle aputukivoimana huikein lisäkustannuksin. Eli tästä oletetun 2 000MW
voimalan 10% kiinailmiönestoon ja jälkilauhdepumppujen osasekunttien
starttivarmistukseksi alati päällä pyörivänä, ennen kuin ydinvoima edes lain
mukaan päästetään verkkoon riehumaan menee tuosta siis 200MW. Mutta koska
tarvitaan myös ydintyyliin varmennuksen varmennusta apulisää päälle niin
lurpahtaa myös toiset 10% tuosta vaan. Eli TISMALEEN ydinvoima tällä
faktauksella tarvitsee haaskaavaa lisävoimaa aina ydinalan ammattilaisena
kertomani 10+10%= 20%!! Siis JOKA ydinvoimalamme vaatii tylysti todennetusti
suomeksi liki Loviisan ydinvoimalan pelkäksi hätäapukyytipojakseen! Ja
meinaan miljardeja ydintukiaisiin palaa merittäin!!
*Maailmassa ei toki sitten MIKÄÄN muuu energiamuoto kyllä vaadi vastaavaa
reserviä. Ei edes siitä syyttä ydinvoimin aiemmin parjattu tuulivoima.
Muilla kun ei säteilyn jälkilämpö räjähdä ydinpommina muutamissa minuuteissa
ydintyyliin. Esim. vesivoimalalle riittää pelkkä maan vetovoimalla toimiva
alasajoventtiilin turva, ei MITÄÄN muuta. Kuten Tanskasta tiedämme sielä ei
moisiin tuulisäätövoimiin ole ollut tarvetta. Vaikka Länsi-Tanskan sähköstä
on tuulivoimalla jo huikeat 50%. Näinkö alkaa vaan ydinalan valheet tippua
julkisuuteen kuin mätä omena puusta!? Eli nyt vaan Fennovoiman ydinherroilta
tiedotusvälineemme tivaamaan, että miksi tämä ydinvoimaan elimellisesti
kuuluneet säätövoiman lisäkustannusfaktat on aina tähän asti vuosikymmenet
megakustannuspakkoina pimitetty?!
*Tilanne tulee sikäli hauskempaan suuntaan kun esim. TVO:n kaasuvoimaloiden
n.100MW kevytdieselin PÄIVÄKULUTUS heiluu 1 000m3/vrk. Löpön euron
litrahinnalla korkkaa ekstemporee miljoonan/vrk!! Ja tämä tosiaan yllä
enemmän kuin triplettinä.. ..Hmm , todella mielenkiintoinen tähän asti
tarkoin salattu ydinalan lisämegakulu taas paljastettuna!! Ei taida olla
"sattuneesti" ydinalalle oikein mieluisaa kertoilla näistä reaaleistaan!?
Jaa niin tosiaan esim. TVO:n lisäkaasuturbinien pakoputkissa ei laki salli
sitten MITÄÄN filtteriä starttihidasteenaan, eli pelkkä aukko syytämään
maailman täyteen pienhiukkasia ja CO2 sellaisella ennennäkemättömän vihan
kiivaudella, että jää siinä ydinpäästökintiömme CO2 osalta myös heittämällä
rankasti miinukselle hetkessä! |
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Jarkko Nurmi
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:58 am Post subject: Re: Nanokemiaa |
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YLE Ajankohtainen kakkonen 13.05-08:" Nyt ei olle enää KENELLEKKÄÄN
epäselvää, että maailma on ajautumassa ennenäkemätrtömiin tuleviin
nälänhätäkriiseihinsä!"
Niin.. ..! Olen jo vuosikaudet opettanut sitä, että maailmassamme on
tuloillaan niin raju ja katastrofaalinen nälkätuho, ettei ihmiskunta on
vastaavaa kokenut IKINÄ. Syynkin sen ennennäkemättömyyteen ole sanonut,
YDINVOIMAN massiivikäyttö! No nyt täällä alkaa kivasti suut napsumaan
kiinni, kun eivät oikeen kehtaisi enää valehdella, etten myös tässä
nälänhätäennakoinneissani ole tapani mukaan täysin oikeassa! No tähän olemme
saaneet toki tottua ja totumme myös jatkossa, oikessaolemisiini. Toki YLE
oli antanut tarkat ohjeet väelleen, ettei nälänhädän todellisista
vaikuttimista vielä sanottu sanan sanaa. Ei edes sitä, että ruokaa on
nimenomaan liian vähän! Heiteltiin jotain liirumlaarumia, jota ei tässä
kannata täysin nyanssiverukkeina edes toistaa. Ohjelmalla vasta varovaisesti
opetettiin tajuamaan edes se, että nälkä ylipäätään tulee ja meinaan pysyy!
Filmatisointi ei puhunut halaistua sanaa ydinionisaation megiläiskadon
viemistä 1/3 osan ruokakadosta niin mitään. Samoin ydinvoimalatuhojen
tappamista merien ruokatuottokadoista maailman 1/3 osan elintarvikkeineen,
kampamaneetteineen, meduusakatastrofeineen ei yhtään mitään. Samoin lopun
1/3 osan ydinaavikoitumisen vesikadon janoista saati sen aiheuttamista
ydinaavikoitumisista ja maaperän säteilyionisaaation kasvuhävikkituhoista ei
myös mitään. Ei tarkoin tiedetystä veden totaliloppumisesta, vaikka samaan
aikaan EU asetti jo nyt -40%< ydinaavikoitumisfaktan takia vedet
erityissuojeluunsa .. ..!
PS. Ennemmin mua kiinostaa kauanko menee vielä aikaa, siihen kuin alkaa
olemaan "tosi kyseessä". Katselin tossa kun täällä mainostelivat
totaaliautioita kukkaniittyjä ja kukoistavia hedelmätarhoja. Aika miten
sanoisin mielenpainuvan "sbuukia", ettei näkynyt pörriäisen pörriäistä!
Vaikka aurinko helotti täysillä. On päivän selvää, että kukkien ja
hyönteisten saumaton yhteisesiintyminen kuuluisi olla totta, mutta kiitos
ydinalamme ei vaan ole. No ydinaavikoittumiseen rutikuivat maat takaavat
tosin sen, ettei satoa tule edes jatkuvien hallaöiden nuijimina. Pian taas
saamme niskaan niin ennennäkemättömnän kuivia kesäkuukausia, ettei satoa
edes senpuoleen ole tulossa. Mutta mikä pitää jopa pikku pakkasiissa
ongelmitta normaalikeväisin pörräävät KAIKKI hyönteiset poissa ruuan äärestä
noin totaalisti? . ..Niin kuolemalla on antaa ydinpäästöiset selityksensä
maailmaamme hämmentävine massatuhoineen.. ..Noo o jäämme odottamaan kauanko
ydinala jatkaa tätä ihmiskuntaa vaarantavaa kuurupiiloaan tekemistensä
vastuustaan vastaamattajättämisistään, meinaan leka TULEE!!((
((+NÄLÄNHÄTÄÄ!+ |
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Tracy101
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| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:24 pm Post subject: Re: Stray cat in front of my door |
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No, you won't get sick from touching it. The poor thing is just in need of
a lot of love, attention, a cozy secure, and safe place to sleep, and food.
You would look the same if you were in it's place.
"GreatArtist" <wizzzer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | A stray cat came and seemed to be wanting help. I gave it some food
and now it won't leave my front door. If I open the door it tries to
come in the house. It looks like it might be sick, because each of its
eyes has some kind of channel/groove coming down from the inner corner
about half an inch. I just want to know is there any kind of disease I
could catch from this cat if I have to touch it? I've avoided touching
it so far. I just wanted to help it along a bit with some food and to
have it go away. No way do I want to get sick from touching it. I
don't need any trouble. I'm looking for some organization to call to
take it. I'm in southern California.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:21 pm Post subject: Re: Stray cat in front of my door |
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On Jun 28, 2:54 pm, Elad Burr <deburr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | In article
SBZ-DA5D12.22275925062...@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,
SavedByZero <S...@blackhole.com> wrote:
X-No-Archive:
In article
ae29190f-455b-4bf7-9f93-808efa80e...@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
GreatArtist <wizz...@hotmail.com> wrote:
A stray cat came and seemed to be wanting help. I gave it some food
and now it won't leave my front door. If I open the door it tries to
come in the house. It looks like it might be sick, because each of its
eyes has some kind of channel/groove coming down from the inner corner
about half an inch. I just want to know is there any kind of disease I
could catch from this cat if I have to touch it? I've avoided touching
it so far. I just wanted to help it along a bit with some food and to
have it go away. No way do I want to get sick from touching it. I
don't need any trouble. I'm looking for some organization to call to
take it. I'm in southern California.
You fed it, you keep it  . I recommend that you keep feeding it until
you can place the cat with someone, unless you decide you want to keep
it yourself. From what you write, the cat seems domesticated and would
take to a new home quickly. I think the cat would make an excellent
companion for you or someone in need of one. A trip to the vet with the
cats for tests, shots, neutering (if needed), a litter box, and food and
water and you're good to go. You may not be able to afford these things..
_All_ my cats have been or are strays or from a shelter(one). One was
decidedly feral and pretty mean, but has taken to me quite well over the
years.
My best friend in the world came to my door looking for a home. After
it was chear that he was here to stay, I took him to the vet for all
the fixins' that you list above. That cat loved me for almost 10 years.
Where I now live, stray cats show up all the time, well...several per
year. Most have been feral, but even a feral cat can be won over with a
some patience. I'm working on one right now...don't know what I'll do
about him and he has to survive the local coyotes. The nearest shelter
(by 20+ miles) refuses to take cats from me since I'm "not in their
area". Funny, they allowed me to adopt a cat from them. Around here,
cats just stop showing up for food or their lives are ended cruelly.
Because of the attitude at the nearest shelter and my limited means,
there is little I can do. That same shelter shows preferential treatment
to the manager's friends, even though they are from my area and have the
means to pay. So it goes...
My Tom loved me as much as I loved him, and I loved him very much.
Last night, as was our custom, he layed on my chest in bed and accepted
the brushing that he enjoyed so much.
Then, this morning, I didn't see him demanding his breakfast.
I found him a little later, dead in a neighbors driveway.
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This is so so sad for me. Whenever my Beebe doesnt show up I am
always terrified that he is dead when sometimes he had just gotten
himself locked in the cellar. He has a gimpy leg and his fur is much
to thick for the summertime. A cat is such an ephemeral gift of God. |
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William E. Graham
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| Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:12 am Post subject: Re: Stray cat in front of my door |
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| Quote: | In article
ae29190f-455b-4bf7-9f93-808efa80e...@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
GreatArtist <wizz...@hotmail.com> wrote:
A stray cat came and seemed to be wanting help. I gave it some food
and now it won't leave my front door. If I open the door it tries to
come in the house. It looks like it might be sick, because each of its
eyes has some kind of channel/groove coming down from the inner corner
about half an inch. I just want to know is there any kind of disease I
could catch from this cat if I have to touch it? I've avoided touching
it so far. I just wanted to help it along a bit with some food and to
have it go away. No way do I want to get sick from touching it. I
don't need any trouble. I'm looking for some organization to call to
take it. I'm in southern California.
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My most beloved companion came to me in a Burger King parking lot, where he
stood on his hind feet, put one front foot on my knee, and pawed at my bag
of burgers and said, "I'm hungry dad......Can I please have some of your
hamburgers?"
I took him home, fed him kibbles and milk, had him checked out by the vet,
and got the best friend I have ever had.
Don't turn your back on fate. |
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Diana
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:07 am Post subject: Re: Stray cat in front of my door |
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In article <0qadnRpUT4s-DhvVnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"William E. Graham" <weg9@comcast.net> wrote:
| Quote: | In article
ae29190f-455b-4bf7-9f93-808efa80e...@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
GreatArtist <wizz...@hotmail.com> wrote:
A stray cat came and seemed to be wanting help. I gave it some food
and now it won't leave my front door. If I open the door it tries to
come in the house. It looks like it might be sick, because each of its
eyes has some kind of channel/groove coming down from the inner corner
about half an inch. I just want to know is there any kind of disease I
could catch from this cat if I have to touch it? I've avoided touching
it so far. I just wanted to help it along a bit with some food and to
have it go away. No way do I want to get sick from touching it. I
don't need any trouble. I'm looking for some organization to call to
take it. I'm in southern California.
My most beloved companion came to me in a Burger King parking lot, where he
stood on his hind feet, put one front foot on my knee, and pawed at my bag
of burgers and said, "I'm hungry dad......Can I please have some of your
hamburgers?"
I took him home, fed him kibbles and milk, had him checked out by the vet,
and got the best friend I have ever had.
Don't turn your back on fate.
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The OP is obviously not a cat person, and very naive about cat behavior
and health issues. If he/she is quite young, there is still hope--maybe
this stray will has won him/her over, and the rest will be history. :)
Anyway, wanted to tell you that you and your best bud are both wise and
fortunate. Stories such as yours never fail to warm my heart and
restore my confidence in happy endings!
Diana |
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Tracy101
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:01 pm Post subject: Re: Stray cat in front of my door |
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I've been scratched and bitten thousands of times by cats over many many
years, having owned numerous cats. 90 percent of the scratches and bites
were not deliberate - but were accidental from playing, especially when they
were kittens and had to be taught not to bite by simply leaving my hand
there and letting them find it very boring. The remainder of the scratches
and bites came, of course, when trying to force poor kitties into doing
something they didn't want to do, like take medicine or go into a cage when
taken to a vet. But I have yet to catch any disease from a cat. It's
pretty hard to catch a disease from a cat unless you hate cats. For some
reason, people who hate cats seem "prone" to such diseases, as if they
somehow invite them.
"tension_on_the_wire" <tension_at_home@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 22, 1:22 pm, GreatArtist <wizz...@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | A stray cat came and seemed to be wanting help. I gave it some food
and now it won't leave my front door. If I open the door it tries to
come in the house. It looks like it might be sick, because each of its
eyes has some kind of channel/groove coming down from the inner corner
about half an inch. I just want to know is there any kind of disease I
could catch from this cat if I have to touch it? I've avoided touching
it so far. I just wanted to help it along a bit with some food and to
have it go away. No way do I want to get sick from touching it. I
don't need any trouble. I'm looking for some organization to call to
take it. I'm in southern California.
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The three most significant diseases acquired from cats cannot be
contracted from touching it. Toxoplasmosis can be acquired by
handling OLD (>48 hrs.) feces from new kittens and is generally only
dangerous to the human fetus therefore pregnant women should avoid
handling the litter box. Cat scratch fever is what it sounds like and
needs a scratch that draws blood to be caused. Cat bites can cause
Pasteurella multocida cellulitis. If the cat is friendly, you are
unlikely to be bitten or scratched, but if you are, you can
immediately avoid consequences by seeking medical evaluation if it
happens. The vast majority of bites or scratches result in nothing at
all, since the rate of contagion in both cases is low. The animal you
describe sounds domestic and friendly and will probably be the most
grateful creature you ever meet in your life if you help him/her.
Don't be afraid.
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Tracy101
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:03 pm Post subject: Re: Stray cat in front of my door |
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I agree, stray cats can turn out to be your best friend in the world. At
first they may be fearful and spend a lot of time hiding, but a cat who
tries to force his way in is really desperate, scared, hungry, and wanting a
pal. Once you win them over they will be grateful for life.
_______
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SavedByZero <SBZ@blackhole.com> wrote:
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In article
ae29190f-455b-4bf7-9f93-808efa80eada@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
GreatArtist <wizzzer@hotmail.com> wrote:
A stray cat came and seemed to be wanting help. I gave it some food
and now it won't leave my front door. If I open the door it tries to
come in the house. It looks like it might be sick, because each of its
eyes has some kind of channel/groove coming down from the inner corner
about half an inch. I just want to know is there any kind of disease I
could catch from this cat if I have to touch it? I've avoided touching
it so far. I just wanted to help it along a bit with some food and to
have it go away. No way do I want to get sick from touching it. I
don't need any trouble. I'm looking for some organization to call to
take it. I'm in southern California.
You fed it, you keep it . I recommend that you keep feeding it until
you can place the cat with someone, unless you decide you want to keep
it yourself. From what you write, the cat seems domesticated and would
take to a new home quickly. I think the cat would make an excellent
companion for you or someone in need of one. A trip to the vet with the
cats for tests, shots, neutering (if needed), a litter box, and food and
water and you're good to go. You may not be able to afford these things.
_All_ my cats have been or are strays or from a shelter(one). One was
decidedly feral and pretty mean, but has taken to me quite well over the
years.
My best friend in the world came to my door looking for a home. After
it was chear that he was here to stay, I took him to the vet for all
the fixins' that you list above. That cat loved me for almost 10 years.
Where I now live, stray cats show up all the time, well...several per
year. Most have been feral, but even a feral cat can be won over with a
some patience. I'm working on one right now...don't know what I'll do
about him and he has to survive the local coyotes. The nearest shelter
(by 20+ miles) refuses to take cats from me since I'm "not in their
area". Funny, they allowed me to adopt a cat from them. Around here,
cats just stop showing up for food or their lives are ended cruelly.
Because of the attitude at the nearest shelter and my limited means,
there is little I can do. That same shelter shows preferential treatment
to the manager's friends, even though they are from my area and have the
means to pay. So it goes...
My Tom loved me as much as I loved him, and I loved him very much.
Last night, as was our custom, he layed on my chest in bed and accepted
the brushing that he enjoyed so much.
Then, this morning, I didn't see him demanding his breakfast.
I found him a little later, dead in a neighbors driveway.
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| Quote: | Today is Holly's 13th birthday. She was still another in my string of
"happy accidents" adoptions. That is, I started out to adopt one type of
cat on each occasion, got one entirely different, and have been happy ever
since that it worked out this way. In fact, I finally learned *never* to
start out with a preconceived notion of what to look for or expect in a
cat. Go with your heart and use some thoughtfulness in the process. In
Holly's case, I went to our local animal shelter the day after
Thanksgiving. I had lost my beloved Amber shortly before and knew it was
"time" to adopt another owner. I had a few days off from work and thought
that would be an opportune time because I could spend a lot of time with
my new adoptee. However, the animal shelter was closed that day. So, I
went to our local pet supply store. They often had kittens that people
had dropped off for adoption. No such luck! There were no kittens. I
got into a conversation
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On May 1, 10:01 pm, tension_on_the_wire <tension_at_h...@yahoo.com>
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| Quote: | On May 1, 8:49 am, Baldoni <baldon...@gmail.com> wrote:
tension_on_the_wireafter his three day drunk wrote :
On Apr 30, 6:47 am, Cat Guy <C...@Guy.com> wrote:
tension_on_the_wire wrote:
Your response reveals your ignorance.
My response reveals the degree to which I pay attention to the life
styles of other cultures.
I just finished demonstrating, in some detail, that these cultural
practices have nothing to do with that religion whatsoever,
For some societies, there is no separation between their religion and
their culture, just as there is no separation between their religion
and their legal or judicial system, or their political system.
and your brilliant response is to give an example of a cultural
practice as evidence of a religion at fault.
It's an example of a culture controlled (or inspired) by a religion
that does nothing to stop the cultural practice.
The Afghans do not have a cultural or religious monopoly on
dogfighting. It takes place in many countries including the great
USA.
You know nothing about what other religions do to stop or encourage
any cultural practices. I gave you specific examples of what one
religion specifically recommends and you ignored them entirely, as if
the human practice is more important than what the religion actually
says is right or wrong, when it comes to blame. You cannot blame a
religion if its people do not practice what it teaches. And if you
don't understand the difference between what the theology of a
religion recommends or dictates, and what the people in any given
culture actually do with their lives at the practical level, then you
should not even be having this conversation. The point is not how a
culture allows itself to be formed by its religion. The point is how
much a culture retains its traditions that predated that religion and
every single culture on Earth is prone to that tendency. If all you
know about the Afghan culture is that they fight dogs, you are one
very sad, pathetic individual. You're almost certainly a hypocrite
too since I'm sure you are equally aware of the plight of many types
of animals in Western Civilization, of which domesticated cats and
dogs are most definitely a victim.
I'll be happy to pass your message on to the Disabled Veterans
of America,
I would be extremely happy if you did pass it on.
I dare you to.
They should know the degree to which the people back home DO NOT
support the false mission they are on, and the degree to which we
resent our taxes and the buildup of our debt that's being expended on
this false and fruitless and immoral mission. The costs of the
illegal invasion and occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq is the root
cause of America's present economic downturn. Hope you enjoy oil at
$100 a barrel and gasoline at $4 a gallon, because it's only going up
from here. All thanks to the destabilization caused by the invasion
and useless occupation of Iraq.
Please tell them all that- if you have the guts.
Yes, I'm going to go in and blame everything that Dick Cheney (not
Bush, fool) and his neocons did on the vets while they recuperate from
amputations, head injuries, and total body burns. That they took upon
themselves in the belief that it was better for this country, not for
themselves or their families.
This post is obviously going to be a waste of time since you are
clearly one of those people who thinks that anything is an opportunity
to air their political views as soon as ever they can make an
assumption about the views of the person they are talking to. You are
preaching to the choir about America's involvement in this "war" so
please save your breath. As much as I disagree with it, however, I
fully recognize that those unfortunate individuals who are in the
military are not responsible for those choices made by their heads of
government, but it is their lives that get squandered nonetheless and
they deserve our respect and compassion for what they are willing to
put on the line, regardless of why they were put there. Don't presume
to lecture me about guts unless you have proof that you too are
willing to put your life on the line for your country even if it means
devastating your own life and family. You ungrateful pissant.
however, as to your ignorant civilian impression of why
troops went to Afghanistan.
It was a stupid-ass, civillian draft-dodging monkey named Bush that
sent them there you idiot.
Yes, idiot, interesting choice of words, that. I know you won't
appreciate being told the Greek origins of that word, but I'm going to
tell you anyway. It was a word used to describe any citizen of Greece
who refused to take his civic duty seriously enough to show up and get
personally involved in decisions made at the municipal level, whether
by consensus or vote. Anyone who did not understand and take
seriously their responsibility to society was felt to be retarded in
some fashion and so the word idiot, which started out as somewhat
political, was then extended to people with thinking difficulties.
Given your statements in the above, and your cavalier and totally
inappropriate suggestion that I go marching into the Disabled American
Veterans to protest the war that they have already fought and come
back from with multiple levels of personal devastation, I have to say,
you fit the description beautifully.
--tension
Maybe I should leave religion out of any future cat related posts.
Most churches I know of have generally got a cat living in the Priests
house.
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I don't see why you should let that unpleasant person dictate what you
post about. I enjoyed your post, as any true cat lover would, without
feeling the need to air their personal political or religious
prejudices. Some people are on a mission, I guess....which makes it
kind of a religion for them, perhaps. How ironic.
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As a Christian, I believe God cares for every one of His creatures as
Psalm 145:9 says. God put them in our care to protect and someday we
will all be held accountable for every creatures as Hebrews 4:13
says. I'm glad the article sparked some discussion. Hopefully, peace
on earth will come quickly.
Jan Fredericks
Catholic Concern for Animals-USA
Founder, God's Creatures Ministry
Licensed Counselor
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Kyla =^..^=`
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Happy Purrday Holly. May you have many more:)
Kyla & Clowder
"Stampir" <
| Quote: | "MaryL"
Today is Holly's 13th birthday. She was still another in my string of
"happy accidents" adoptions. That is, I started out to adopt one type of
cat on each occasion, got one entirely different, and have been happy
ever since that it worked out this way. In fact, I finally learned
*never* to start out with a preconceived notion of what to look for or
expect in a cat. Go with your heart and use some thoughtfulness in the
process. In Holly's case, I went to our local animal shelter the day
after Thanksgiving. I had lost my beloved Amber shortly before and knew
it was "time" to adopt another owner. I had a few days off from work and
thought that would be an opportune time because I could spend a lot of
time with my new adoptee. However, the animal shelter was closed that
day. So, I went to our local pet supply store. They often had kittens
that people had dropped off for adoption. No such luck! There were no
kittens. I got into a conversation
A very pretty cat. A lovely black coat.
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"S.O.S." <sosprivateemail@gmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I had posted earlier about my cat Chowder who was having walking
and balance problems and had just
peed the bed a couple nights ago.
She was FeLV positive which I knew when I adopted her off of PetFinder via
a adoption program through a vet clinic about a hour away from where I
live now.
It is with a heavy heart that I announce
that she was helped to sleep one last time.
When I took her in for her vet appointment, a clinic that specializes in
cats only, the vet very quickly knew what was wrong.
She felt her belly and said one of her kidneys felt like a tumor was
growing there and it was twice the size it should be.
Also her eye was starting to cloud up and looked like part of her pupil
was covered in a white cotton looking growth.
The vet said it appeared that the cancer had spread to her eye and brain.
That would explain most of the neurological balance and walking problems.
I had never had to take a animal in to be put to sleep. I lost it when the
vet told me what was best.
While they watched my 3 y-o daughter,
I went back with Chowder.
They placed her on a soft towel and I held her head as I told her how much
I loved her over and over and asked that she forgive me for what was about
to happen.
She really didn't flinch much when they gave her the injection in her leg
so she must have really lost a lot of feeling back there.
I was staring at her eyes the whole time and again I lost it the instant I
knew she was gone.
I only had her 2 1/2 months.
She was about 2 years old.
When I got her I was told she could live up to 2 years being positive with
FeLV.
The vet said when cats contract it in their mothers uterus, they don't
live near as long than if she had contracted it when she was a adult.
I am just beside myself.
I did not expect this visit to be "the one."
I thought meds, maybe a ear infection, but not this.
Her bowls are still sitting out with food and water. Her litterbox is
untouched.
I still have a bag of her food. I still smell her. :(
I told the vet afterwards after watching the pet shows on Animal Planet,
and watching animals before they are put to sleep, that you would think
you would get desensitized to the death process. The vet said it never
gets easier. The vet even choked up herself.
Still crying.....
I must go now.
TTYL :(
I LOVE YOU CHOWDER.
See you again one day.
S.O.S.
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How are you doing after the terrible loss of Chowder? I hope ok. Its always
difficult to lose our companions.
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