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 Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:13 pm Post subject: Militant gay activists--> This is why you aren't accepted b |
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I guess this is what passes for a constructive and healthy dialog on the
issues in the gay community. While not all gays did this, I would suspect
that a number of them are in solidarity with the act. This is the kind of
thing that gives gays low standing in the community. And exactly why I
voted against gay marriage. This kind of thing will continue until the rest
of us make it clear that there will be NO acceptance of the homosexual
community so long as they resort to militant activist methods.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081114/D94EEP9O2.html
White powder sent to Mormon temples in Utah, LA
Nov 13, 10:08 PM (ET)
LOS ANGELES (AP) - Letters containing a suspicious white powder were sent
Thursday to Mormon temples in Los Angeles and Salt Lake City that were the
sites of protests against the church's support of California's gay marriage
ban.
The temple in the Westwood area of Los Angeles was evacuated before a
hazardous materials crew determined the envelope's contents were not toxic,
said FBI spokesman Jason Pack.
The temple in downtown Salt Lake City, where the church is based, received a
similar envelope containing a white powder that spilled onto a clerk's hand.
The room was decontaminated and the envelope taken by the FBI for testing.
The clerk showed no signs of illness, but the scare shut down a building at
Temple Square for more than an hour, said Scott Freitag, a spokesman for the
Salt Lake City Fire Department.
None of the writing on the envelope was threatening, and the church received
no calls or messages related to the package, Freitag said.
Protests in recent days have targeted the Mormon church, which encouraged
its members to fight the recently passed amendment banning gay marriage in
California.
Authorities are looking into several theories on who sent the letters and
why, Pack said.
Anthrax mailed as a white powder to Washington lawmakers and media outlets
killed five people and sickened 17 just weeks after the attacks of September
11, 2001. Periodic hoaxes modeled on the anthrax mailings have popped up
since then but usually prove harmless. |
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tar~bal
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| Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:06 pm Post subject: Re: Militant gay activists--> This is why you aren't accept |
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"Andrew McGee" <amhome@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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"tar~bal" <base@wheeze.net> wrote in message
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I guess this is what passes for a constructive and healthy dialog on the
issues in the gay community. While not all gays did this, I would suspect
that a number of them are in solidarity with the act. This is the kind of
thing that gives gays low standing in the community. And exactly why I
voted against gay marriage. This kind of thing will continue until the
rest of us make it clear that there will be NO acceptance of the
homosexual community so long as they resort to militant activist methods.
So, let's get this straight (so to speak).
If these militant gays would cease their activities, you would start to
support single-sex marriage.
Just confirm that that's right, would you?
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The reason I am against gay marriage is primarily because of the militant
gay agenda. |
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Andrew McGee
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| Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:10 pm Post subject: Re: Militant gay activists--> This is why you aren't accept |
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"tar~bal" <base@wheeze.net> wrote in message
news:kPSdnSGFzoO3FYDUnZ2dnUVZ_v_inZ2d@earthlink.com...
| Quote: | I guess this is what passes for a constructive and healthy dialog on the
issues in the gay community. While not all gays did this, I would suspect
that a number of them are in solidarity with the act. This is the kind of
thing that gives gays low standing in the community. And exactly why I
voted against gay marriage. This kind of thing will continue until the
rest of us make it clear that there will be NO acceptance of the homosexual
community so long as they resort to militant activist methods.
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So, let's get this straight (so to speak).
If these militant gays would cease their activities, you would start to
support single-sex marriage.
Just confirm that that's right, would you?
| Quote: | http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081114/D94EEP9O2.html
White powder sent to Mormon temples in Utah, LA
Nov 13, 10:08 PM (ET)
LOS ANGELES (AP) - Letters containing a suspicious white powder were sent
Thursday to Mormon temples in Los Angeles and Salt Lake City that were the
sites of protests against the church's support of California's gay
marriage ban.
The temple in the Westwood area of Los Angeles was evacuated before a
hazardous materials crew determined the envelope's contents were not
toxic, said FBI spokesman Jason Pack.
The temple in downtown Salt Lake City, where the church is based, received
a similar envelope containing a white powder that spilled onto a clerk's
hand.
The room was decontaminated and the envelope taken by the FBI for testing.
The clerk showed no signs of illness, but the scare shut down a building
at Temple Square for more than an hour, said Scott Freitag, a spokesman
for the Salt Lake City Fire Department.
None of the writing on the envelope was threatening, and the church
received no calls or messages related to the package, Freitag said.
Protests in recent days have targeted the Mormon church, which encouraged
its members to fight the recently passed amendment banning gay marriage in
California.
Authorities are looking into several theories on who sent the letters and
why, Pack said.
Anthrax mailed as a white powder to Washington lawmakers and media outlets
killed five people and sickened 17 just weeks after the attacks of
September 11, 2001. Periodic hoaxes modeled on the anthrax mailings have
popped up since then but usually prove harmless.
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Kurt Ullman
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| Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:17 pm Post subject: Re: Militant gay activists--> This is why you aren't accept |
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In article <McqdnZ4KNdCZCIDUnZ2dnUVZ8sednZ2d@bt.com>,
"Andrew McGee" <amhome@btopenworld.com> wrote:
| Quote: | "tar~bal" <base@wheeze.net> wrote in message
news:kPSdnSGFzoO3FYDUnZ2dnUVZ_v_inZ2d@earthlink.com...
I guess this is what passes for a constructive and healthy dialog on the
issues in the gay community. While not all gays did this, I would suspect
that a number of them are in solidarity with the act. This is the kind of
thing that gives gays low standing in the community. And exactly why I
voted against gay marriage. This kind of thing will continue until the
rest of us make it clear that there will be NO acceptance of the homosexual
community so long as they resort to militant activist methods.
So, let's get this straight (so to speak).
If these militant gays would cease their activities, you would start to
support single-sex marriage.
Just confirm that that's right, would you?
But public opinion is much more likely to sway away from their |
cause because of behavior like this. This is still very much a public
relations battle. |
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Sally Wentworth
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| Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 12:32 am Post subject: Re: Militant gay activists--> This is why you aren't accept |
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"tar~bal" <base@wheeze.net> wrote in message
news:kPSdnSGFzoO3FYDUnZ2dnUVZ_v_inZ2d@earthlink.com...
| Quote: | I guess this is what passes for a constructive and healthy dialog on the
issues in the gay community. While not all gays did this, I would suspect
that a number of them are in solidarity with the act. This is the kind of
thing that gives gays low standing in the community. And exactly why I
voted against gay marriage. This kind of thing will continue until the
rest of us make it clear that there will be NO acceptance of the homosexual
community so long as they resort to militant activist methods.
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The time for constructive dialog is over, queers need to start burning down
neighborhoods like the blacks did. This is a disgrace that these backwards
assholes banned a gay's civil rights. |
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Joseph Littleshoes
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| Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 12:41 am Post subject: Re: Militant gay activists--> This is why you aren't accept |
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tar~bal wrote:
| Quote: | I guess this is what passes for a constructive and healthy dialog on the
issues in the gay community. While not all gays did this, I would suspect
that a number of them are in solidarity with the act. This is the kind of
thing that gives gays low standing in the community. And exactly why I
voted against gay marriage. This kind of thing will continue until the rest
of us make it clear that there will be NO acceptance of the homosexual
community so long as they resort to militant activist methods.
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There will be NO acceptance of the "heterosexual" community so long as
they resort to blatant, hypocritical, cross posting trollery. |
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evadnikufesin
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| Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:39 am Post subject: Re: Militant gay activists--> This is why you aren't accept |
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In article <McqdnZ4KNdCZCIDUnZ2dnUVZ8sednZ2d@bt.com>,
"Andrew McGee" <amhome@btopenworld.com> wrote:
| Quote: | So, let's get this straight (so to speak).
If these militant gays would cease their activities, you would start to
support single-sex marriage.
Just confirm that that's right, would you?
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Quit mixing issues. We're talking about hatecrimes here from fascist
groups.
Totally unamerican.
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martin
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| Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:51 pm Post subject: Re: Militant gay activists--> This is why you aren't accept |
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evadnikufesin wrote:
| Quote: | In article <McqdnZ4KNdCZCIDUnZ2dnUVZ8sednZ2d@bt.com>,
"Andrew McGee" <amhome@btopenworld.com> wrote:
So, let's get this straight (so to speak).
If these militant gays would cease their activities, you would start to
support single-sex marriage.
Just confirm that that's right, would you?
Quit mixing issues. We're talking about hatecrimes here from fascist
groups.
Totally unamerican.
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As is a tax exempt organization mascarading as a religion and getting
involved in political lobbying. |
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evadnikufesin
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| Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:08 pm Post subject: Re: Militant gay activists--> This is why you aren't accept |
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In article <491eb7a6$0$2523$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk>,
martin <usenet1@etiqa.co.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | evadnikufesin wrote:
In article <McqdnZ4KNdCZCIDUnZ2dnUVZ8sednZ2d@bt.com>,
"Andrew McGee" <amhome@btopenworld.com> wrote:
So, let's get this straight (so to speak).
If these militant gays would cease their activities, you would start to
support single-sex marriage.
Just confirm that that's right, would you?
Quit mixing issues. We're talking about hatecrimes here from fascist
groups.
Totally unamerican.
As is a tax exempt organization mascarading as a religion and getting
involved in political lobbying.
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Your opinion. One ex-mormon douche tells the media "my parents said the
church told them to vote for prop 8" and everyone believes her.
In court that's called hearsay.
BTW, learn to spell "masquerading".
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martin
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| Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:16 pm Post subject: Re: Militant gay activists--> This is why you aren't accept |
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evadnikufesin wrote:
| Quote: | In article <491eb7a6$0$2523$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk>,
martin <usenet1@etiqa.co.uk> wrote:
evadnikufesin wrote:
In article <McqdnZ4KNdCZCIDUnZ2dnUVZ8sednZ2d@bt.com>,
"Andrew McGee" <amhome@btopenworld.com> wrote:
So, let's get this straight (so to speak).
If these militant gays would cease their activities, you would start to
support single-sex marriage.
Just confirm that that's right, would you?
Quit mixing issues. We're talking about hatecrimes here from fascist
groups.
Totally unamerican.
As is a tax exempt organization mascarading as a religion and getting
involved in political lobbying.
Your opinion. One ex-mormon douche tells the media "my parents said the
church told them to vote for prop 8" and everyone believes her.
In court that's called hearsay.
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No, it's the money and resources put into paying for lobbying.
http://mormonsfor8.com/
"In a letter dated June 29, 2008, Mormon leaders in Salt Lake City
called for church members to work hard to pass Proposition 8 in
California. "
http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/commentary/california-and-same-sex-marriage
This is political and the church should lose its tax exempt status. Keep
the hell out of other peoples' private lives.
| Quote: | BTW, learn to spell "masquerading".
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When you learn to keep the hell out of other peoples bedrooms |
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Kurt Ullman
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| Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:27 pm Post subject: Re: Militant gay activists--> This is why you aren't accept |
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In article <evadnikufesin-6C35AC.07082615112008@nntp.motzarella.org>,
evadnikufesin <evadnikufesin@gmail.invalidcom.domain> wrote:
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As is a tax exempt organization mascarading as a religion and getting
involved in political lobbying.
Your opinion. One ex-mormon douche tells the media "my parents said the
church told them to vote for prop 8" and everyone believes her.
Besides, even if they did they certainly have the right under the |
first amendment. Also tax-exempt organizations from the VFW, to Red
Cross, to Gay & lesbian alliance against defamation lobby.
As was noted by The Compendium of Federal & State Regulations for
Non-Profit Organizations:
"In short, IRC 501(c)(3) organizations may take sides with respect to
**political issues**, but not political candidates." (Emphasis mine)
http://www.muridae.com/nporegulation/lobbying.html
So, obviously if the Mormons did happen to advocate for one side or
the other on Prop 8, they were certainly within their rights to do so. |
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evadnikufesin
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| Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:38 pm Post subject: Re: Militant gay activists--> This is why you aren't accept |
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In article <491ee7c6$0$2523$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk>,
martin <usenet1@etiqa.co.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | evadnikufesin wrote:
In article <491eb7a6$0$2523$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk>,
martin <usenet1@etiqa.co.uk> wrote:
evadnikufesin wrote:
In article <McqdnZ4KNdCZCIDUnZ2dnUVZ8sednZ2d@bt.com>,
"Andrew McGee" <amhome@btopenworld.com> wrote:
So, let's get this straight (so to speak).
If these militant gays would cease their activities, you would start to
support single-sex marriage.
Just confirm that that's right, would you?
Quit mixing issues. We're talking about hatecrimes here from fascist
groups.
Totally unamerican.
As is a tax exempt organization mascarading as a religion and getting
involved in political lobbying.
Your opinion. One ex-mormon douche tells the media "my parents said the
church told them to vote for prop 8" and everyone believes her.
In court that's called hearsay.
No, it's the money and resources put into paying for lobbying.
http://mormonsfor8.com/
"In a letter dated June 29, 2008, Mormon leaders in Salt Lake City
called for church members to work hard to pass Proposition 8 in
California. "
http://newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/commentary/california-and-same-sex-mar
riage
This is political and the church should lose its tax exempt status.
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Fair enough.. But you're only talking about 2% of the California
population. Not enough to influence that vote significantly. MOST
people in California are not the church-going type and are what you
could even call 'liberal when convenient'. Some of them are probably
even people who those in the gay community would call "friends". Which
is 3456345.3 kinds of fucked up.
| Quote: | Keep the hell out of other peoples' private lives.
BTW, learn to spell "masquerading".
When you learn to keep the hell out of other peoples bedrooms
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On this we agree. Private lives should be kept that way - private.
Also I'm not a fan of Prop 8 at all.. but that's because I believe in
smaller government and above all that the government should stay out of
private lives and personal freedom.
On prop 8 all I can say is that I hope it gets overturned in the Supreme
Court simply because the government has no business saying how anyone
should live their lives. Unfortunately that means that taxpayer dollars
are going to be wasted with stupid legislation that should never have
been passed.
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"We are living in a gelded age..." -Savage |
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evadnikufesin
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| Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:48 pm Post subject: Re: Militant gay activists--> This is why you aren't accept |
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In article
<kurtullman-97279E.10273815112008@70-3-168-216.pools.spcsdns.net>,
Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | In article <evadnikufesin-6C35AC.07082615112008@nntp.motzarella.org>,
evadnikufesin <evadnikufesin@gmail.invalidcom.domain> wrote:
As is a tax exempt organization mascarading as a religion and getting
involved in political lobbying.
Your opinion. One ex-mormon douche tells the media "my parents said the
church told them to vote for prop 8" and everyone believes her.
Besides, even if they did they certainly have the right under the
first amendment. Also tax-exempt organizations from the VFW, to Red
Cross, to Gay & lesbian alliance against defamation lobby.
As was noted by The Compendium of Federal & State Regulations for
Non-Profit Organizations:
"In short, IRC 501(c)(3) organizations may take sides with respect to
**political issues**, but not political candidates." (Emphasis mine)
http://www.muridae.com/nporegulation/lobbying.html
So, obviously if the Mormons did happen to advocate for one side or
the other on Prop 8, they were certainly within their rights to do so.
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Thanks for mentioning that.
Now maybe the bungholes here can quit the "they should lose their tax
exempt status" crap and we can go back to the actual issue. That issue
being that liberals in California created the government that just bit
some of them in the ass.
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Lass Chance_2
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| Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:49 am Post subject: Re: Militant gay activists--> This is why you aren't accept |
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Well, jeeeze, pal...the "gays" didnt send the white powder until AFTER
the fricking Mormons and other stick-up-the-ass jesus freaks voted
against their right to be married.
Im NOT a Christer, myself...but isnt there a passage in the Book that
sez something about "not judging lest YE be judged?"
If there IS a big ole white haired Guy UP There who decides who goes Up
and who goes Down...why not let Him "punish" the "evil" Gays?
How did it get to be a human's job to decide who, in love, GETS to be
married?
...and WTF earthly difference does it make to YOU? Are YOU under the
impression God NEEDS your "help"?
LassChance
Militant gay activists--› This is why you aren't accepted by normal
people
Group: rec.food.cooking Date: Fri, Nov 14, 2008, 9:13am From:
base@wheeze.net (tar~bal)
I guess this is what passes for a constructive and healthy dialog on the
issues in the gay community. While not all gays did this, I would
suspect that a number of them are in solidarity with the act. This is
the kind of thing that gives gays low standing in the community. And
exactly why I voted against gay marriage. This kind of thing will
continue until the rest of us make it clear that there will be NO
acceptance of the homosexual community so long as they resort to
militant activist methods.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081114/D94EEP9O2.html
White powder sent to Mormon temples in Utah, LA
Nov 13, 10:08 PM (ET)
LOS ANGELES (AP) - Letters containing a suspicious white powder were
sent Thursday to Mormon temples in Los Angeles and Salt Lake City that
were the sites of protests against the church's support of California's
gay marriage ban.
The temple in the Westwood area of Los Angeles was evacuated before a
hazardous materials crew determined the envelope's contents were not
toxic, said FBI spokesman Jason Pack.
The temple in downtown Salt Lake City, where the church is based,
received a similar envelope containing a white powder that spilled onto
a clerk's hand. The room was decontaminated and the envelope taken by
the FBI for testing. The clerk showed no signs of illness, but the scare
shut down a building at Temple Square for more than an hour, said Scott
Freitag, a spokesman for the Salt Lake City Fire Department.
None of the writing on the envelope was threatening, and the church
received no calls or messages related to the package, Freitag said.
Protests in recent days have targeted the Mormon church, which
encouraged its members to fight the recently passed amendment banning
gay marriage in California.
Authorities are looking into several theories on who sent the letters
and why, Pack said.
Anthrax mailed as a white powder to Washington lawmakers and media
outlets killed five people and sickened 17 just weeks after the attacks
of September 11, 2001. Periodic hoaxes modeled on the anthrax mailings
have popped up since then but usually prove harmless. |
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D.F. Manno
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| Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:03 am Post subject: Re: Militant gay activists--> This is why you aren't accept |
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In article <kPSdnSGFzoO3FYDUnZ2dnUVZ_v_inZ2d@earthlink.com>,
"tar~bal" <base@wheeze.net> wrote:
| Quote: | I guess this is what passes for a constructive and healthy dialog on the
issues in the gay community. While not all gays did this, I would suspect
that a number of them are in solidarity with the act.
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Ya know, the Mormons have enemies, including those polygamous Mormon
sects. Their enemies or someone else could have done this, knowing that
people like you would pin it on the gays.
How about waiting until they find out who did it before you treat us to
another anti-gay rant?
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D.F. Manno | dfmanno@mail.com
This time _we_ won. This time _you_ get over it. |
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