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New Deer Hunters...Know this b4 you hunt
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family-outdoors
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:27 am    Post subject: New Deer Hunters...Know this b4 you hunt Reply with quote

I have been in the field on public land where I almost always hunt and
come across a "successful" hunter who had no idea what to do with the
deer he'd shot...not even a knife.

You must be able to field dress a deer...
I have a page that you can study, print, and take with you...free of
course...
You'll have to scroll down page a bit to find it:
http://family-outdoors.com/HUNTING_TIPS.htm

Good luck and be safe! (Other commonsense tips on above page...some
for Missouri, some for anywhere)
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Brian
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 4:00 am    Post subject: Re: New Deer Hunters...Know this b4 you hunt Reply with quote

This should have been covered in their Hunter Safety course.



"family-outdoors" <pamanniii@GMAIL.COM> wrote in message
news:96e2eaa4-be9e-421b-8549-e3dceed7cd7f@u46g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
I have been in the field on public land where I almost always hunt and
come across a "successful" hunter who had no idea what to do with the
deer he'd shot...not even a knife.

You must be able to field dress a deer...
I have a page that you can study, print, and take with you...free of
course...
You'll have to scroll down page a bit to find it:
http://family-outdoors.com/HUNTING_TIPS.htm

Good luck and be safe! (Other commonsense tips on above page...some
for Missouri, some for anywhere)
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Frank
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 6:12 pm    Post subject: Re: New Deer Hunters...Know this b4 you hunt Reply with quote

family-outdoors wrote:
Quote:
I have been in the field on public land where I almost always hunt and
come across a "successful" hunter who had no idea what to do with the
deer he'd shot...not even a knife.

You must be able to field dress a deer...
I have a page that you can study, print, and take with you...free of
course...
You'll have to scroll down page a bit to find it:
http://family-outdoors.com/HUNTING_TIPS.htm

Good luck and be safe! (Other commonsense tips on above page...some
for Missouri, some for anywhere)

Nice site. Interesting deer butchering video. I'd like to see part 2.
Never cut one up like that and butcher I've been going to does
conventional quartering. Important thing is identifying and removing
parts for various uses.

I've also seen a hunter dragging a non-field dressed buck out of a big
woods who told me a few pounds lighter would make no difference Wink
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family-outdoors
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:25 pm    Post subject: Re: New Deer Hunters...Know this b4 you hunt Reply with quote

Sorry about posting the same video twice! I fixed it.

I guess a few pounds didn't matter to that guy then, but it probably
mattered later...people who don't like wild game usually don't 'cause
it wasn't cared for properly.

As we know the work begins when after the trigger is squeezed (at
least on the rare occasions I hit what I was aiming for:).
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J Buck
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:06 am    Post subject: Re: New Deer Hunters...Know this b4 you hunt Reply with quote

Brian wrote: <This should have been covered in their Hunter Safety
course.>

These courses cover field-dressing?
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Greg Harbaugh
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:36 pm    Post subject: Re: New Deer Hunters...Know this b4 you hunt Reply with quote

Pennsylvania does....
Greg


J Buck wrote:
Quote:
Brian wrote: <This should have been covered in their Hunter Safety
course.

These courses cover field-dressing?
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family-outdoors
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:48 pm    Post subject: Re: New Deer Hunters...Know this b4 you hunt Reply with quote

Not in the ones I attended with my sons.
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Marty Carts
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:11 am    Post subject: Re: New Deer Hunters...Know this b4 you hunt Reply with quote

Greg Harbaugh wrote:

Quote:
Pennsylvania does....

J Buck wrote:
Brian wrote: <This should have been covered in their Hunter Safety
course.

These courses cover field-dressing?

Don't remember about the field-dressing component
Hunter Ed in MD, but the more gutting I do the more
I learn. Haven't seen the site (I'm on dialup most
of the time) but I think that there's a lot to learn
about it all and I find that I can review old stuff
with a new appreciation.

I've started gutting upside down (uh, the deer, not
me) when the digestives are clearly not poked. It
allows handling the hip area more cleanly, and first,
and allows me to skin along with gutting in one
operation.

For example, I've just learned that after partly
skinning the rear leg (for the gambrel), but
before hanging the deer, I can hit a leg joint
just right with a knife and take the hoof off
easily, w/o harming the gambrel hanging hole (and
w/o dulling my blade) and then use the rear hoof
as a handle to skin the whole leg once it's hung.
Slick trick the local butcher's skinner showed me.

Btw re moving the deer before gutting--Since I only
hunt nearby my home I don't want entrails piles
around and I don't want to raise a crop of possums
and I've found that with a big pile of wood chips
(gratis from the roadside power line trimmers) one
can make super fast compost for the garden (how's
that for recycling?! The deer eat my tomatoes and
my tomatoes eat the deer!) I too choose to drag the
deer around before gutting, up to the garage.
Unless it's perfect temperature for aging the meat
I butcher pretty quickly, within a day or so. Then
I cleaver the remnants and add them to the goo
before any of it starts to smell. There *is* a while
when the smell is mildly eyeball-crossing but that's
only a few days. And I minimize that by reducing
the air exchange by wrapping the sides of the pile
in plastic. I let a bit of air thru from underneath
to keep the composting going. The plastic keeps the
pile fairly warm, which speeds the process along. I
use a compost thermometer (like a meat thermometer
with a 2' long probe) and see it regularly go to
140F, sometimes close to 160F.

If you have a garden which is not too close to
the house or is downwind, I recommend trying
this. ___________________________________Marty
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Chris Barnes
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:53 pm    Post subject: Re: New Deer Hunters...Know this b4 you hunt Reply with quote

Quote:
J Buck wrote:
Brian wrote: <This should have been covered in their Hunter Safety
course.

These courses cover field-dressing?
Greg Harbaugh wrote:
Pennsylvania does....


It's not a safety issue, therefore it's not covered in Texas.

The course is already 10 hours long; I wouldn't want to see it longer -
*especially* since to really teach field-dressing, you would need an
animal to field-dress as pictures and text descriptions just won't cut
it (pun intended).


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SaPeIsMa_On_the_Road
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:42 pm    Post subject: Re: New Deer Hunters...Know this b4 you hunt Reply with quote

"Chris Barnes" <chris@txbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:gdi2ge$ak3$1@news.tamu.edu...
Quote:
The course is already 10 hours long; I wouldn't want to see it longer -
*especially* since to really teach field-dressing, you would need an
animal to field-dress as pictures and text descriptions just won't cut it
(pun intended).


I found (quite a few years ago),a video at the local library, and it was
sponsored by the DNR of some eastern State, where they actually walked
through the process step-by-step using a freshly-killed deer.
And for each step they gave you the gotchas that you could encounter, as
well as simple ways to get around them.
The library does not have it in it's catalog any more, so the tape is not
available any more.
But I did learn a lot from it..

If I can find out more about the tape I will post it in the future.
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Bill Lang
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:14 am    Post subject: Re: New Deer Hunters...Know this b4 you hunt Reply with quote

On Mon 20 Oct 2008 10:42:34a, SaPeIsMa_On_the_Road
(SaPeIsMa@HOTMAIL.COM) wrote

Quote:
"Chris Barnes" <chris@txbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:gdi2ge$ak3$1@news.tamu.edu...
The course is already 10 hours long; I wouldn't want to see it
longer -
*especially* since to really teach field-dressing, you would
need an
animal to field-dress as pictures and text descriptions just
won't cut it (pun intended).


I found (quite a few years ago),a video at the local library,
and it was sponsored by the DNR of some eastern State, where
they actually walked through the process step-by-step using a
freshly-killed deer. And for each step they gave you the gotchas
that you could encounter, as well as simple ways to get around
them. The library does not have it in it's catalog any more, so
the tape is not available any more.
But I did learn a lot from it..

If I can find out more about the tape I will post it in the
future.


2 years ago I bought a 2 tape set with a guy named Larry Metz.
Tape 1 was dressing and skinning, and tape 2 was boning. It
wouldn't win any awards for production value, but it served the
purpose. I learned quite a bit even though I've cut meat in a
steakhouse before. A quick search shows copies available on
Amazon.
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The BorgMan
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:45 am    Post subject: Re: New Deer Hunters...Know this b4 you hunt Reply with quote

Bill Lang <wjlmutt@BITEMEMINDSPRING.COM> wrote in
news:Xns9B3DC3A611510bungalobill@199.45.49.11:

Quote:
On Mon 20 Oct 2008 10:42:34a, SaPeIsMa_On_the_Road
(SaPeIsMa@HOTMAIL.COM) wrote

"Chris Barnes" <chris@txbarnes.com> wrote in message
news:gdi2ge$ak3$1@news.tamu.edu...
The course is already 10 hours long; I wouldn't want to see it
longer -
*especially* since to really teach field-dressing, you would
need an
animal to field-dress as pictures and text descriptions just
won't cut it (pun intended).


I found (quite a few years ago),a video at the local library,
and it was sponsored by the DNR of some eastern State, where
they actually walked through the process step-by-step using a
freshly-killed deer. And for each step they gave you the gotchas
that you could encounter, as well as simple ways to get around
them. The library does not have it in it's catalog any more, so
the tape is not available any more.
But I did learn a lot from it..

If I can find out more about the tape I will post it in the
future.


2 years ago I bought a 2 tape set with a guy named Larry Metz.
Tape 1 was dressing and skinning, and tape 2 was boning. It
wouldn't win any awards for production value, but it served the
purpose. I learned quite a bit even though I've cut meat in a
steakhouse before. A quick search shows copies available on
Amazon.


There are several free videos floating around on the web also.

--
Aaron
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