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OBAMA'S HATE BILL STEALS GOD-GIVEN FREEDOM
By Rev. Ted Pike
5 Nov 08
President-elect Barack Obama prioritizes passage of the
freedom-stealing Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Prevention
Act. High-level Democrats are also eager to limit free
speech in media with the Fairness Doctrine. Earlier
liberals, especially during the 60s and 70s, championed
unbridled freedom of speech and expression. But Obama
and "new liberals" encourage the opposite: hate and bias
laws which restrict and even criminalize criticism of
federally protected groups such as Jews and homosexuals.
(1)
Should there be limits on freedom of speech? Or do the
ethical foundations of America, the Bible and the
Constitution allow us to say virtually anything we want?
To answer these and other questions about this now
controversial subject, we must define "free speech."
What is Free Speech?
Our right to free speech comes from our identity as free
will beings, created in God's image. Freedom to make
moral choices is given every person at conception and is
part of the eternal soul or spirit of man. The first
instinct of our free will is to speak our desires and
opinions. Speech naturally proceeds from the innermost
thoughts of our minds and souls. Natural law also argues
for freedom of speech. If animals can bark, sing, chirp
at their pleasure and without restraint, shouldn't human
beings made in God's image have at least as much right
to speak? Our free speech, like our free will, is our
most precious birthright from our Creator.
Yet this freedom must not be abused. In the Old
Testament, God did command execution for those who
abused their freedom of speech through blasphemy,
advocating idolatry, or inciting rebellion. Yet He gave
each person the freedom to commit those sins, if they
chose.
God has authority to end verbal discord to Himself and
His law whenever He pleases. He would not be God if He
didn't have that privilege. He is not required to bear
with sin for any length of time, and the eternal law of
a holy God is that any discord to Him must be instantly
annihilated. Yet He doesn't incinerate all sinners; even
demons are given freedom to continue. God forbears, in
love, to give mankind time to repent and become His
friends.
In fact, God does much more than just forbear judgment.
Jesus came down and died on a cross to bear our just
punishment. When we trust in Christ, our Sin-bearer, He
becomes our bridge of justification and reconciliation
to a holy God.
When Speech Should Not Be Free
Just as there were some limits to freedom of speech for
the Hebrews, so American law sets some limits. No one is
allowed to shout "Fire!" in a crowded theater or to
incite riot, or to libel or slander. American law does
not tolerate speech that threatens public safety with
"imminent harm," and I believe speech that is blatantly
corruptive should also be restricted. Scripture provides
precedent for such limits, especially in the Old
Testament. Young people should be legally protected from
expression that is overtly pornographic, solicitous of
pedophilia, sexually traumatizing or sadistically
violent.
But we should not prohibit speech that is merely
politically incorrect. This includes what the
Anti-Defamation League decries as "anti-Semitic
conspiracy theories." ADL counsels libraries and schools
to block such "hate speech" from computers. (This has
included the National Prayer Network's website,
[11]Truthtellers.org.) In reality, politically incorrect
ideas are often true. They bear no resemblance to speech
that actually traumatizes, degrades and corrupts youth.
Despite potential abuses, free speech is a much more
redeeming influence than a threat. In the area of
expression, we should always err on the side of freedom
rather than restriction. The greatest blessing of
freedom of speech is that it allows new and truthful
ideas that can strengthen and morally orient the
confused or misled. Is our problem today too much
unbridled, unauthorized speech and discussion? Hardly.
Our problem is highly concentrated power in mass media,
which shuts down true discussion and non-mainstream
voices. The dissenting voices that do exist are
threatened by fierce efforts, primarily led by ADL, to
restrict freedom with hate, bias and speech laws. ADL
ceaselessly searches for a way to outlaw criticism of
matters Jewish as well as homosexuality on the internet.
We need much, much more total truth-telling, not less.
Big Brother Obama
Media already portrays Obama as another Martin Luther
King Jr. with a dream of freedom for all. Don't believe
it. Obama's new brand of liberalism stands for ending
freedom of speech for critics of federally protected
groups. Obama will attempt to pass the federal hate bill
and pro-homosexual ENDA as well as "lobby reform" bills
meant to cripple and penalize Christian/conservative and
pro-life activist groups. He will almost certainly allow
Democrats to also pass the freedom-stealing Fairness
Doctrine that will run conservative media off the
airwaves.
Obama wants to sweep America into hate law bondage as in
Canada. Last year, a prominent Canadian hate law
bureaucrat commented that Canada tolerates free speech
but is not in love with it. Freedom-loving Americans
must fall even more deeply in love with God and His
priceless gift of free speech!
We must also act. With the Senate and House now
overwhelmingly empowered to pass Orwellian legislation,
lovers of freedom must be ready to protest as never
before. Calls must flood the House of Representatives
just as soon as the new hate bill arrives there,
probably in early January.
Are the odds against freedom now insurmountable? Again
and again they seemed that way over the past nine years
when hate bill forces always commanded a numerical
majority in Congress. But God repeatedly intervened,
creating disarray in the hate bill ranks and defeating
it five times.
Can we do it again? Yes! Exactly the same way we
succeeded earlier.
Call first to God. Then call Washington!
Endnotes:
1. The original 1968 federal hate law, upon which
present federal hate bills greatly expand, criminalizes
speech. It says that if anyone's public speech
encourages another to an act of hate-motivated violence,
the original speaker can be tried as a federal hate
criminal along with the active offender whom he has
influenced.
Title 18, U.S.C., Sec. 2a says:
(a) Whoever commits an offense against the United States
or aids, abets, counsels, commands, induces or procures
its commission, is punishable as a principal.
-----------------------------
Rev. Ted Pike is director of the National Prayer
Network, a Christian/conservative watchdog organization.
Let the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith teach you
how they have saddled 45 states with hate laws capable
of persecuting Christians:
[12]http://www.adl.org/99hatecrime/intro.asp.
Learn how ADL took away free speech in Canada and wants
to steal it now in the U.S. Congress. Watch Rev. Ted
Pike's [13]Hate Laws: Making Criminals of Christians at
video.google.com. Purchase this gripping documentary to
show at church. Order online at [14]www.truthtellers.org
for $24.90, DVD or VHS, by calling 503-853-3688, or at
the address below.
TALK SHOW HOSTS: Interview Rev. Ted Pike on this topic.
Call (503) 631-3808.
National Prayer Network, P.O. Box 828, Clackamas, OR
97015
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:11 am Post subject: Re: correct the behavior of your beloved Palestinians first |
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"Ø" <Ø@set.null> wrote in message
news:Xns9B4DCB593CAC9c54s0l1@140.99.99.130...
| Quote: | Pike's article is about the stealing of our freedom of speech in the US.
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of course, and he conviently quotes very selected passages of the Old
Testament to support his views but totally ignores most of the Jewish OT
laws but he does not practice Jesus' teachings such as giving up worldly
possessions.
| Quote: | How does your response even touch on that?
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you did not even comment on your posting of links which I pointed out!
| Quote: | Don't change the topic.
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we are not losing freedom of speech but attempts are being made to prohibit
hate speech such as that which your handlers promote
| Quote: | Do you even *understand* what the topic is about?
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of course...but why do you ignore the physical abuse by your beloved
Palestinians against Christians such as your beloved Pike...how can you
support both sides? oh, I forgot, it takes some intellect to make such
distinctions!
| Quote: | Or will it take 20 posts for you to understand?
TIA
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"Dennis M Reed \"Califa\"" <dmreed@dmreed.com> wrote:
as usual, you simply quote what other hate mongers say rather than
providing some personal insight into the issue!
please first correct the behavior of your beloved Palestinians who kill
people like Pike before you criticize laws against certain behavior:
http://www.christianpost.com/article/20071007/abducted-palestinian-christ
ian-leader-found-dead.htm
Abducted Palestinian Christian Leader Found Dead
By Eric Young
Christian Post Reporter
Sun, Oct. 07 2007 12:10 PM EDT
Neighbors say Rami Khader Ayyad, the 32-year-old director of Gaza's only
Christian bookstore, had been abducted by unknown assailants near his
home late Saturday afternoon before his body was found the next morning
with a visible gunshot wound to the head and numerous stab wounds.
Ayyad's store, the Teacher's Bookshop, is associated with the
Palestinian Bible Society, and Ayyad regularly received anonymous death
threats from people angry about his missionary work, his family
reported. In April, the bookstore was firebombed during a wave of
attacks by a shadowy Muslim "vice squad" on Internet cafes, music shops
and other targets associated with Western influence.
"Ø" <Ø@set.null> wrote in message
news:Xns9B4DA7E694AA6c54s0l1@140.99.99.130...
http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/obamashatebillsteals.htm
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OBAMA'S HATE BILL STEALS GOD-GIVEN FREEDOM
By Rev. Ted Pike
5 Nov 08
President-elect Barack Obama prioritizes passage of the
freedom-stealing Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Prevention
Act. High-level Democrats are also eager to limit free
speech in media with the Fairness Doctrine. Earlier
liberals, especially during the 60s and 70s, championed
unbridled freedom of speech and expression. But Obama
and "new liberals" encourage the opposite: hate and bias
laws which restrict and even criminalize criticism of
federally protected groups such as Jews and homosexuals.
(1)
Should there be limits on freedom of speech? Or do the
ethical foundations of America, the Bible and the
Constitution allow us to say virtually anything we want?
To answer these and other questions about this now
controversial subject, we must define "free speech."
What is Free Speech?
Our right to free speech comes from our identity as free
will beings, created in God's image. Freedom to make
moral choices is given every person at conception and is
part of the eternal soul or spirit of man. The first
instinct of our free will is to speak our desires and
opinions. Speech naturally proceeds from the innermost
thoughts of our minds and souls. Natural law also argues
for freedom of speech. If animals can bark, sing, chirp
at their pleasure and without restraint, shouldn't human
beings made in God's image have at least as much right
to speak? Our free speech, like our free will, is our
most precious birthright from our Creator.
Yet this freedom must not be abused. In the Old
Testament, God did command execution for those who
abused their freedom of speech through blasphemy,
advocating idolatry, or inciting rebellion. Yet He gave
each person the freedom to commit those sins, if they
chose.
God has authority to end verbal discord to Himself and
His law whenever He pleases. He would not be God if He
didn't have that privilege. He is not required to bear
with sin for any length of time, and the eternal law of
a holy God is that any discord to Him must be instantly
annihilated. Yet He doesn't incinerate all sinners; even
demons are given freedom to continue. God forbears, in
love, to give mankind time to repent and become His
friends.
In fact, God does much more than just forbear judgment.
Jesus came down and died on a cross to bear our just
punishment. When we trust in Christ, our Sin-bearer, He
becomes our bridge of justification and reconciliation
to a holy God.
When Speech Should Not Be Free
Just as there were some limits to freedom of speech for
the Hebrews, so American law sets some limits. No one is
allowed to shout "Fire!" in a crowded theater or to
incite riot, or to libel or slander. American law does
not tolerate speech that threatens public safety with
"imminent harm," and I believe speech that is blatantly
corruptive should also be restricted. Scripture provides
precedent for such limits, especially in the Old
Testament. Young people should be legally protected from
expression that is overtly pornographic, solicitous of
pedophilia, sexually traumatizing or sadistically
violent.
But we should not prohibit speech that is merely
politically incorrect. This includes what the
Anti-Defamation League decries as "anti-Semitic
conspiracy theories." ADL counsels libraries and schools
to block such "hate speech" from computers. (This has
included the National Prayer Network's website,
[11]Truthtellers.org.) In reality, politically incorrect
ideas are often true. They bear no resemblance to speech
that actually traumatizes, degrades and corrupts youth.
Despite potential abuses, free speech is a much more
redeeming influence than a threat. In the area of
expression, we should always err on the side of freedom
rather than restriction. The greatest blessing of
freedom of speech is that it allows new and truthful
ideas that can strengthen and morally orient the
confused or misled. Is our problem today too much
unbridled, unauthorized speech and discussion? Hardly.
Our problem is highly concentrated power in mass media,
which shuts down true discussion and non-mainstream
voices. The dissenting voices that do exist are
threatened by fierce efforts, primarily led by ADL, to
restrict freedom with hate, bias and speech laws. ADL
ceaselessly searches for a way to outlaw criticism of
matters Jewish as well as homosexuality on the internet.
We need much, much more total truth-telling, not less.
Big Brother Obama
Media already portrays Obama as another Martin Luther
King Jr. with a dream of freedom for all. Don't believe
it. Obama's new brand of liberalism stands for ending
freedom of speech for critics of federally protected
groups. Obama will attempt to pass the federal hate bill
and pro-homosexual ENDA as well as "lobby reform" bills
meant to cripple and penalize Christian/conservative and
pro-life activist groups. He will almost certainly allow
Democrats to also pass the freedom-stealing Fairness
Doctrine that will run conservative media off the
airwaves.
Obama wants to sweep America into hate law bondage as in
Canada. Last year, a prominent Canadian hate law
bureaucrat commented that Canada tolerates free speech
but is not in love with it. Freedom-loving Americans
must fall even more deeply in love with God and His
priceless gift of free speech!
We must also act. With the Senate and House now
overwhelmingly empowered to pass Orwellian legislation,
lovers of freedom must be ready to protest as never
before. Calls must flood the House of Representatives
just as soon as the new hate bill arrives there,
probably in early January.
Are the odds against freedom now insurmountable? Again
and again they seemed that way over the past nine years
when hate bill forces always commanded a numerical
majority in Congress. But God repeatedly intervened,
creating disarray in the hate bill ranks and defeating
it five times.
Can we do it again? Yes! Exactly the same way we
succeeded earlier.
Call first to God. Then call Washington!
Endnotes:
1. The original 1968 federal hate law, upon which
present federal hate bills greatly expand, criminalizes
speech. It says that if anyone's public speech
encourages another to an act of hate-motivated violence,
the original speaker can be tried as a federal hate
criminal along with the active offender whom he has
influenced.
Title 18, U.S.C., Sec. 2a says:
(a) Whoever commits an offense against the United States
or aids, abets, counsels, commands, induces or procures
its commission, is punishable as a principal.
-----------------------------
Rev. Ted Pike is director of the National Prayer
Network, a Christian/conservative watchdog organization.
Let the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith teach you
how they have saddled 45 states with hate laws capable
of persecuting Christians:
[12]http://www.adl.org/99hatecrime/intro.asp.
Learn how ADL took away free speech in Canada and wants
to steal it now in the U.S. Congress. Watch Rev. Ted
Pike's [13]Hate Laws: Making Criminals of Christians at
video.google.com. Purchase this gripping documentary to
show at church. Order online at [14]www.truthtellers.org
for $24.90, DVD or VHS, by calling 503-853-3688, or at
the address below.
TALK SHOW HOSTS: Interview Rev. Ted Pike on this topic.
Call (503) 631-3808.
National Prayer Network, P.O. Box 828, Clackamas, OR
97015
[15]Back to Top
National
Prayer
Network,
Inc. All
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reserved.
References
Visible links
1. http://www.truthtellers.org/index.html
2. http://www.truthtellers.org/hatecrimes.html
3. http://www.truthtellers.org/israel.html
4. http://www.truthtellers.org/biblicalanswers.html
5. http://www.truthtellers.org/bookvideo.html
6. http://www.truthtellers.org/aboutnpn.html
7. http://www.truthtellers.org/contactnpn.html
8. http://www.truthtellers.org/alertarchives.html
9. http://www.truthtellers.org/links.html
11. http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/www.truthtellers.org
12. http://www.adl.org/99hatecrime/intro.asp
13.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7217700265038533779&q=ted+pike
14. http://www.truthtellers.org/
15. http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/obamashatebillsteals.htm#Title
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:11 am Post subject: Re: correct the behavior of your beloved Palestinians first |
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Pike's article is about the stealing of our freedom of speech in the US.
How does your response even touch on that?
Don't change the topic.
Do you even *understand* what the topic is about?
Or will it take 20 posts for you to understand?
TIA
Ø
"Dennis M Reed \"Califa\"" <dmreed@dmreed.com> wrote:
| Quote: | as usual, you simply quote what other hate mongers say rather than
providing some personal insight into the issue!
please first correct the behavior of your beloved Palestinians who kill
people like Pike before you criticize laws against certain behavior:
http://www.christianpost.com/article/20071007/abducted-palestinian-christ
ian-leader-found-dead.htm
Abducted Palestinian Christian Leader Found Dead
By Eric Young
Christian Post Reporter
Sun, Oct. 07 2007 12:10 PM EDT
Neighbors say Rami Khader Ayyad, the 32-year-old director of Gaza's only
Christian bookstore, had been abducted by unknown assailants near his
home late Saturday afternoon before his body was found the next morning
with a visible gunshot wound to the head and numerous stab wounds.
Ayyad's store, the Teacher's Bookshop, is associated with the
Palestinian Bible Society, and Ayyad regularly received anonymous death
threats from people angry about his missionary work, his family
reported. In April, the bookstore was firebombed during a wave of
attacks by a shadowy Muslim "vice squad" on Internet cafes, music shops
and other targets associated with Western influence.
"Ø" <Ø@set.null> wrote in message
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http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/obamashatebillsteals.htm
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OBAMA'S HATE BILL STEALS GOD-GIVEN FREEDOM
By Rev. Ted Pike
5 Nov 08
President-elect Barack Obama prioritizes passage of the
freedom-stealing Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Prevention
Act. High-level Democrats are also eager to limit free
speech in media with the Fairness Doctrine. Earlier
liberals, especially during the 60s and 70s, championed
unbridled freedom of speech and expression. But Obama
and "new liberals" encourage the opposite: hate and bias
laws which restrict and even criminalize criticism of
federally protected groups such as Jews and homosexuals.
(1)
Should there be limits on freedom of speech? Or do the
ethical foundations of America, the Bible and the
Constitution allow us to say virtually anything we want?
To answer these and other questions about this now
controversial subject, we must define "free speech."
What is Free Speech?
Our right to free speech comes from our identity as free
will beings, created in God's image. Freedom to make
moral choices is given every person at conception and is
part of the eternal soul or spirit of man. The first
instinct of our free will is to speak our desires and
opinions. Speech naturally proceeds from the innermost
thoughts of our minds and souls. Natural law also argues
for freedom of speech. If animals can bark, sing, chirp
at their pleasure and without restraint, shouldn't human
beings made in God's image have at least as much right
to speak? Our free speech, like our free will, is our
most precious birthright from our Creator.
Yet this freedom must not be abused. In the Old
Testament, God did command execution for those who
abused their freedom of speech through blasphemy,
advocating idolatry, or inciting rebellion. Yet He gave
each person the freedom to commit those sins, if they
chose.
God has authority to end verbal discord to Himself and
His law whenever He pleases. He would not be God if He
didn't have that privilege. He is not required to bear
with sin for any length of time, and the eternal law of
a holy God is that any discord to Him must be instantly
annihilated. Yet He doesn't incinerate all sinners; even
demons are given freedom to continue. God forbears, in
love, to give mankind time to repent and become His
friends.
In fact, God does much more than just forbear judgment.
Jesus came down and died on a cross to bear our just
punishment. When we trust in Christ, our Sin-bearer, He
becomes our bridge of justification and reconciliation
to a holy God.
When Speech Should Not Be Free
Just as there were some limits to freedom of speech for
the Hebrews, so American law sets some limits. No one is
allowed to shout "Fire!" in a crowded theater or to
incite riot, or to libel or slander. American law does
not tolerate speech that threatens public safety with
"imminent harm," and I believe speech that is blatantly
corruptive should also be restricted. Scripture provides
precedent for such limits, especially in the Old
Testament. Young people should be legally protected from
expression that is overtly pornographic, solicitous of
pedophilia, sexually traumatizing or sadistically
violent.
But we should not prohibit speech that is merely
politically incorrect. This includes what the
Anti-Defamation League decries as "anti-Semitic
conspiracy theories." ADL counsels libraries and schools
to block such "hate speech" from computers. (This has
included the National Prayer Network's website,
[11]Truthtellers.org.) In reality, politically incorrect
ideas are often true. They bear no resemblance to speech
that actually traumatizes, degrades and corrupts youth.
Despite potential abuses, free speech is a much more
redeeming influence than a threat. In the area of
expression, we should always err on the side of freedom
rather than restriction. The greatest blessing of
freedom of speech is that it allows new and truthful
ideas that can strengthen and morally orient the
confused or misled. Is our problem today too much
unbridled, unauthorized speech and discussion? Hardly.
Our problem is highly concentrated power in mass media,
which shuts down true discussion and non-mainstream
voices. The dissenting voices that do exist are
threatened by fierce efforts, primarily led by ADL, to
restrict freedom with hate, bias and speech laws. ADL
ceaselessly searches for a way to outlaw criticism of
matters Jewish as well as homosexuality on the internet.
We need much, much more total truth-telling, not less.
Big Brother Obama
Media already portrays Obama as another Martin Luther
King Jr. with a dream of freedom for all. Don't believe
it. Obama's new brand of liberalism stands for ending
freedom of speech for critics of federally protected
groups. Obama will attempt to pass the federal hate bill
and pro-homosexual ENDA as well as "lobby reform" bills
meant to cripple and penalize Christian/conservative and
pro-life activist groups. He will almost certainly allow
Democrats to also pass the freedom-stealing Fairness
Doctrine that will run conservative media off the
airwaves.
Obama wants to sweep America into hate law bondage as in
Canada. Last year, a prominent Canadian hate law
bureaucrat commented that Canada tolerates free speech
but is not in love with it. Freedom-loving Americans
must fall even more deeply in love with God and His
priceless gift of free speech!
We must also act. With the Senate and House now
overwhelmingly empowered to pass Orwellian legislation,
lovers of freedom must be ready to protest as never
before. Calls must flood the House of Representatives
just as soon as the new hate bill arrives there,
probably in early January.
Are the odds against freedom now insurmountable? Again
and again they seemed that way over the past nine years
when hate bill forces always commanded a numerical
majority in Congress. But God repeatedly intervened,
creating disarray in the hate bill ranks and defeating
it five times.
Can we do it again? Yes! Exactly the same way we
succeeded earlier.
Call first to God. Then call Washington!
Endnotes:
1. The original 1968 federal hate law, upon which
present federal hate bills greatly expand, criminalizes
speech. It says that if anyone's public speech
encourages another to an act of hate-motivated violence,
the original speaker can be tried as a federal hate
criminal along with the active offender whom he has
influenced.
Title 18, U.S.C., Sec. 2a says:
(a) Whoever commits an offense against the United States
or aids, abets, counsels, commands, induces or procures
its commission, is punishable as a principal.
-----------------------------
Rev. Ted Pike is director of the National Prayer
Network, a Christian/conservative watchdog organization.
Let the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith teach you
how they have saddled 45 states with hate laws capable
of persecuting Christians:
[12]http://www.adl.org/99hatecrime/intro.asp.
Learn how ADL took away free speech in Canada and wants
to steal it now in the U.S. Congress. Watch Rev. Ted
Pike's [13]Hate Laws: Making Criminals of Christians at
video.google.com. Purchase this gripping documentary to
show at church. Order online at [14]www.truthtellers.org
for $24.90, DVD or VHS, by calling 503-853-3688, or at
the address below.
TALK SHOW HOSTS: Interview Rev. Ted Pike on this topic.
Call (503) 631-3808.
National Prayer Network, P.O. Box 828, Clackamas, OR
97015
[15]Back to Top
National
Prayer
Network,
Inc. All
rights
reserved.
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Dennis M Reed \"Califa\"
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:11 am Post subject: correct the behavior of your beloved Palestinians first Re: |
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as usual, you simply quote what other hate mongers say rather than providing
some personal insight into the issue!
please first correct the behavior of your beloved Palestinians who kill
people like Pike before you criticize laws against certain behavior:
http://www.christianpost.com/article/20071007/abducted-palestinian-christian-leader-found-dead.htm
Abducted Palestinian Christian Leader Found Dead
By Eric Young
Christian Post Reporter
Sun, Oct. 07 2007 12:10 PM EDT
Neighbors say Rami Khader Ayyad, the 32-year-old director of Gaza's only
Christian bookstore, had been abducted by unknown assailants near his home
late Saturday afternoon before his body was found the next morning with a
visible gunshot wound to the head and numerous stab wounds.
Ayyad's store, the Teacher's Bookshop, is associated with the Palestinian
Bible Society, and Ayyad regularly received anonymous death threats from
people angry about his missionary work, his family reported. In April, the
bookstore was firebombed during a wave of attacks by a shadowy Muslim "vice
squad" on Internet cafes, music shops and other targets associated with
Western influence.
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OBAMA'S HATE BILL STEALS GOD-GIVEN FREEDOM
By Rev. Ted Pike
5 Nov 08
President-elect Barack Obama prioritizes passage of the
freedom-stealing Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Prevention
Act. High-level Democrats are also eager to limit free
speech in media with the Fairness Doctrine. Earlier
liberals, especially during the 60s and 70s, championed
unbridled freedom of speech and expression. But Obama
and "new liberals" encourage the opposite: hate and bias
laws which restrict and even criminalize criticism of
federally protected groups such as Jews and homosexuals.
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Should there be limits on freedom of speech? Or do the
ethical foundations of America, the Bible and the
Constitution allow us to say virtually anything we want?
To answer these and other questions about this now
controversial subject, we must define "free speech."
What is Free Speech?
Our right to free speech comes from our identity as free
will beings, created in God's image. Freedom to make
moral choices is given every person at conception and is
part of the eternal soul or spirit of man. The first
instinct of our free will is to speak our desires and
opinions. Speech naturally proceeds from the innermost
thoughts of our minds and souls. Natural law also argues
for freedom of speech. If animals can bark, sing, chirp
at their pleasure and without restraint, shouldn't human
beings made in God's image have at least as much right
to speak? Our free speech, like our free will, is our
most precious birthright from our Creator.
Yet this freedom must not be abused. In the Old
Testament, God did command execution for those who
abused their freedom of speech through blasphemy,
advocating idolatry, or inciting rebellion. Yet He gave
each person the freedom to commit those sins, if they
chose.
God has authority to end verbal discord to Himself and
His law whenever He pleases. He would not be God if He
didn't have that privilege. He is not required to bear
with sin for any length of time, and the eternal law of
a holy God is that any discord to Him must be instantly
annihilated. Yet He doesn't incinerate all sinners; even
demons are given freedom to continue. God forbears, in
love, to give mankind time to repent and become His
friends.
In fact, God does much more than just forbear judgment.
Jesus came down and died on a cross to bear our just
punishment. When we trust in Christ, our Sin-bearer, He
becomes our bridge of justification and reconciliation
to a holy God.
When Speech Should Not Be Free
Just as there were some limits to freedom of speech for
the Hebrews, so American law sets some limits. No one is
allowed to shout "Fire!" in a crowded theater or to
incite riot, or to libel or slander. American law does
not tolerate speech that threatens public safety with
"imminent harm," and I believe speech that is blatantly
corruptive should also be restricted. Scripture provides
precedent for such limits, especially in the Old
Testament. Young people should be legally protected from
expression that is overtly pornographic, solicitous of
pedophilia, sexually traumatizing or sadistically
violent.
But we should not prohibit speech that is merely
politically incorrect. This includes what the
Anti-Defamation League decries as "anti-Semitic
conspiracy theories." ADL counsels libraries and schools
to block such "hate speech" from computers. (This has
included the National Prayer Network's website,
[11]Truthtellers.org.) In reality, politically incorrect
ideas are often true. They bear no resemblance to speech
that actually traumatizes, degrades and corrupts youth.
Despite potential abuses, free speech is a much more
redeeming influence than a threat. In the area of
expression, we should always err on the side of freedom
rather than restriction. The greatest blessing of
freedom of speech is that it allows new and truthful
ideas that can strengthen and morally orient the
confused or misled. Is our problem today too much
unbridled, unauthorized speech and discussion? Hardly.
Our problem is highly concentrated power in mass media,
which shuts down true discussion and non-mainstream
voices. The dissenting voices that do exist are
threatened by fierce efforts, primarily led by ADL, to
restrict freedom with hate, bias and speech laws. ADL
ceaselessly searches for a way to outlaw criticism of
matters Jewish as well as homosexuality on the internet.
We need much, much more total truth-telling, not less.
Big Brother Obama
Media already portrays Obama as another Martin Luther
King Jr. with a dream of freedom for all. Don't believe
it. Obama's new brand of liberalism stands for ending
freedom of speech for critics of federally protected
groups. Obama will attempt to pass the federal hate bill
and pro-homosexual ENDA as well as "lobby reform" bills
meant to cripple and penalize Christian/conservative and
pro-life activist groups. He will almost certainly allow
Democrats to also pass the freedom-stealing Fairness
Doctrine that will run conservative media off the
airwaves.
Obama wants to sweep America into hate law bondage as in
Canada. Last year, a prominent Canadian hate law
bureaucrat commented that Canada tolerates free speech
but is not in love with it. Freedom-loving Americans
must fall even more deeply in love with God and His
priceless gift of free speech!
We must also act. With the Senate and House now
overwhelmingly empowered to pass Orwellian legislation,
lovers of freedom must be ready to protest as never
before. Calls must flood the House of Representatives
just as soon as the new hate bill arrives there,
probably in early January.
Are the odds against freedom now insurmountable? Again
and again they seemed that way over the past nine years
when hate bill forces always commanded a numerical
majority in Congress. But God repeatedly intervened,
creating disarray in the hate bill ranks and defeating
it five times.
Can we do it again? Yes! Exactly the same way we
succeeded earlier.
Call first to God. Then call Washington!
Endnotes:
1. The original 1968 federal hate law, upon which
present federal hate bills greatly expand, criminalizes
speech. It says that if anyone's public speech
encourages another to an act of hate-motivated violence,
the original speaker can be tried as a federal hate
criminal along with the active offender whom he has
influenced.
Title 18, U.S.C., Sec. 2a says:
(a) Whoever commits an offense against the United States
or aids, abets, counsels, commands, induces or procures
its commission, is punishable as a principal.
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Rev. Ted Pike is director of the National Prayer
Network, a Christian/conservative watchdog organization.
Let the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith teach you
how they have saddled 45 states with hate laws capable
of persecuting Christians:
[12]http://www.adl.org/99hatecrime/intro.asp.
Learn how ADL took away free speech in Canada and wants
to steal it now in the U.S. Congress. Watch Rev. Ted
Pike's [13]Hate Laws: Making Criminals of Christians at
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"Dennis M Reed \"Califa\"" <dmreed@dmreed.com> wrote:
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Pike's article is about the stealing of our freedom of speech in the
US.
of course, and he conviently quotes very selected passages of the Old
Testament to support his views but totally ignores most of the Jewish OT
laws but he does not practice Jesus' teachings such as giving up worldly
possessions.
How does your response even touch on that?
you did not even comment on your posting of links which I pointed out!
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I did comment.
I commented that it had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with my original post.
The original post:
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:15 pm Post subject: Re: [ot] Obama's Hate Bill Steals God-Given Freedom, by Rev |
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pure BS...I asked for your comments regarding your original link posting!
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"Ø" <Ø@set.null> wrote in message
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Pike's article is about the stealing of our freedom of speech in the
US.
of course, and he conviently quotes very selected passages of the Old
Testament to support his views but totally ignores most of the Jewish OT
laws but he does not practice Jesus' teachings such as giving up worldly
possessions.
How does your response even touch on that?
you did not even comment on your posting of links which I pointed out!
I did comment.
I commented that it had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with my original post.
The original post:
[ot] Obama's Hate Bill Steals God-Given Freedom, by Rev Ted Pike
http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/obamashatebillsteals.htm
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