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Why not? And perhaps also the less active newsgroups:
alt.binaries.backyard.critters
alt.binaries.birdwatching
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"Martin Jensen" <hawkeye96@comcast.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Is it time to refer Not4wood to the following photo-devoted newsgroups?
alt.binaries.birds> and <alt.binaries.photos.original> among otherr?
Not4wood wrote:
I have been a new lurker here for about a week and I am brand new to
Birding and have a question for the group;
I have been both an amature and pro photographer for more years then
I would like to remember. When your taking notes of what bird, when,
where and I've seen several quotes of people "saw a bird and how
beautiful it was". My question is how come a lot of you aren't
taking images of these wonderous birds (some do but from what I
understand a lot aren't)? If you are this hasn't been mentioned in
the quote in this usenet group and am curious as to how do you prove
what you saw and where if you have no visual proof?
We just came back from a Tour of Great Brittain and there was a woman
with us who was a "Birder" and if I had gone somewhere and saw a bird
that I had thought was curious I ended up taking its picture and then
we would try and look it up in her book "Birds of Great Brittain. I
actually ran across several birds that I had never heard of before
and it ended up being a real thrill to look up the bird and use the
photo as reference to find out more information.
I have checked out the net and have found seveal organizations
pertaining to Birding. Obviously you are mostly Birders first and
photographers second and I am coming into this obsession of birds
from the other side and find it both fasinating and frustrating. I
have seen some very amazing images of birds and have heard about the
Digiscope method. Waiting patiently watching a bird to see if you
could acquire the perfect shot and painstakingly sitting in the water
or trying to stay silent to as to not scare off this bird or the
others that you dont see is purely amazing to me.
Now I can see that your not getting real up close and personal as to
the birds safety and comfort or to try and not get too close to the
nesting areas but using a P&S camera attached to a Spotting Scope is
defeating the purpose of a great shot. The Nikon Coolpix line of
cameras are very good and can see why Nikon is the recommended line
of choice. I do like Nikon and have a Nikon DSLR and am interested
in using this camera to capture the moment and I am interested in
learning the techniques you have become used to for Photography. Are
there places on the net that I can learn from in these methods or
skills?
Here are a couple examples, please let me know what you think and how
I can improve.
Thank you in advance for your time.
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Rick
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| Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:10 am Post subject: Re: New to Birding and have a question |
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Robert Miles wrote:
| Quote: | Why not? And perhaps also the less active newsgroups:
alt.binaries.backyard.critters
alt.binaries.birdwatching
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"Martin Jensen" <hawkeye96@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Is it time to refer Not4wood to the following photo-devoted newsgroups?
alt.binaries.birds> and <alt.binaries.photos.original> among otherr?
Not4wood wrote:
I have been a new lurker here for about a week and I am brand new to
Birding and have a question for the group;
I have been both an amature and pro photographer for more years then
I would like to remember. When your taking notes of what bird, when,
where and I've seen several quotes of people "saw a bird and how
beautiful it was". My question is how come a lot of you aren't
taking images of these wonderous birds (some do but from what I
understand a lot aren't)? If you are this hasn't been mentioned in
the quote in this usenet group and am curious as to how do you prove
what you saw and where if you have no visual proof?
We just came back from a Tour of Great Brittain and there was a woman
with us who was a "Birder" and if I had gone somewhere and saw a bird
that I had thought was curious I ended up taking its picture and then
we would try and look it up in her book "Birds of Great Brittain. I
actually ran across several birds that I had never heard of before
and it ended up being a real thrill to look up the bird and use the
photo as reference to find out more information.
I have checked out the net and have found seveal organizations
pertaining to Birding. Obviously you are mostly Birders first and
photographers second and I am coming into this obsession of birds
from the other side and find it both fasinating and frustrating. I
have seen some very amazing images of birds and have heard about the
Digiscope method. Waiting patiently watching a bird to see if you
could acquire the perfect shot and painstakingly sitting in the water
or trying to stay silent to as to not scare off this bird or the
others that you dont see is purely amazing to me.
Now I can see that your not getting real up close and personal as to
the birds safety and comfort or to try and not get too close to the
nesting areas but using a P&S camera attached to a Spotting Scope is
defeating the purpose of a great shot. The Nikon Coolpix line of
cameras are very good and can see why Nikon is the recommended line
of choice. I do like Nikon and have a Nikon DSLR and am interested
in using this camera to capture the moment and I am interested in
learning the techniques you have become used to for Photography. Are
there places on the net that I can learn from in these methods or
skills?
Here are a couple examples, please let me know what you think and how
I can improve.
Thank you in advance for your time.
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You might be interested in the Yahoo group on digiscoping:
digiscopingbirds@yahoogroups.com
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SteveB
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"Not4wood" <no_mgottes@spam_verizon.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I have been a new lurker here for about a week and I am brand new to
Birding
and have a question for the group;
I have been both an amature and pro photographer for more years then I
would
like to remember. When your taking notes of what bird, when, where and
I've
seen several quotes of people "saw a bird and how beautiful it was". My
question is how come a lot of you aren't taking images of these wonderous
birds (some do but from what I understand a lot aren't)? If you are this
hasn't been mentioned in the quote in this usenet group and am curious as
to
how do you prove what you saw and where if you have no visual proof?
We just came back from a Tour of Great Brittain and there was a woman with
us who was a "Birder" and if I had gone somewhere and saw a bird that I
had
thought was curious I ended up taking its picture and then we would try
and
look it up in her book "Birds of Great Brittain. I actually ran across
several birds that I had never heard of before and it ended up being a
real
thrill to look up the bird and use the photo as reference to find out more
information.
I have checked out the net and have found seveal organizations pertaining
to
Birding. Obviously you are mostly Birders first and photographers second
and I am coming into this obsession of birds from the other side and find
it
both fasinating and frustrating. I have seen some very amazing images of
birds and have heard about the Digiscope method. Waiting patiently
watching
a bird to see if you could acquire the perfect shot and painstakingly
sitting in the water or trying to stay silent to as to not scare off this
bird or the others that you dont see is purely amazing to me.
Now I can see that your not getting real up close and personal as to the
birds safety and comfort or to try and not get too close to the nesting
areas but using a P&S camera attached to a Spotting Scope is defeating the
purpose of a great shot. The Nikon Coolpix line of cameras are very good
and can see why Nikon is the recommended line of choice. I do like Nikon
and have a Nikon DSLR and am interested in using this camera to capture
the
moment and I am interested in learning the techniques you have become used
to for Photography. Are there places on the net that I can learn from in
these methods or skills?
Here are a couple examples, please let me know what you think and how I
can
improve.
Thank you in advance for your time.
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If you have any further questions, please, feel free to e-mail me.
Mark G
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I'm a photographer, and have taken many good photos of birds. Hummingbirds
are my favorite.
In order to take pictures of birds, one must possess several good things,
the least of which is a good camera and luck.
Setting up to take birds is no small matter. Most amateur photogs don't
have the glass (lenses) to photograph birds past a certain point, so their
photos come up as a dot in a picture. In order for them to fill the frame,
you have to have a long lens or be close.
Watching birds is just that. No special equipment, save maybe a small pair
of binoculars, and the ten and twenty dollar variety do fine.
It's work to photograph birds. Plain and simple. But I do like it, and
have hundreds of photos. I haven't done a lot this year, but still see a
Canon 40D on the event horizon for next year if my ship comes in and I'm at
the right dock.
Watching birds just involves the simplest things. Cameras are not in that
category.
MHO, YMMV.
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SteveB
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If you get into birding, you will encounter such
people; *their* field marks are expensive, drab-colored clothing with
lots of pockets, floppy hats to match, $1000 binoculars, dour
dispositions, and above all clipboards. I doubt anyone in this newsgroup
falls into that category. 
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Lanny Chambers
St. Louis, MO
No birds today ..... gone shopping .........
..... going to get cheaper, bright clothing with no pockets, a ball cap
that
doesn't flop, $50 binoculars, a smilie face and I'll lose the clipboard
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NOW I find out!!!
;) 
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Tammie in Ontario
North of Lake Superior
Cat Forum: http://laurieb971.ipbfree.com/index.php?act=idx
Bird Photos: http://community.webshots.com/user/thache
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One of my best days birdwatching was in the nude. I didn't intend it that
way, but I went out to brush the snow off the feeder, and the door slammed
shut. The firemen were amused, and I was a hideous shade of red by the time
they got there. The birds didn't seem to mind, and even seemed to be
screeching, "Hey, you guys, you gotta see THIS!"
So, I guess technically, there IS no official garb.
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SteveB
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| Quote: | But I'm the only one who knows. Does that make me feel less fulfilled?
Not for an instant. Social affirmation is not essential to
appreciating beauty, mystery, or miracle.
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So true, but when you really see a dazzler, it's a little empty when you
can't turn to someone and say, "Did you see THAT?"
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SteveB
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BTW, when I shoot pictures of flowers I use a tripod.
I do too. I like the itty bitty flowers taken on a macro setting. I use
two knees and an elbow as my tripod. I must look a fright to onlookers.
Good thing I got a skinny butt.
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Martin Jensen
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Jan Owen wrote:
| Quote: | "Martin Jensen" <hawkeye96@comcast.net> wrote in message
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What to say? Photos are good for some activities, unnecessary for
basic birding.
Imagine my state of mind after taking a walk on a mountain hollow
road in West Virginia three and a half years ago -- sans camera.
I have no evidence of the Ivory-billed Woodpecker that flew over my
head from behind me and landed on a branch 20 feet up a spruce tree
and 25 years ahead of me, paused five seconds, then flew on away
into the woods.
I know the Pileated Woodpecker; it wasn't that. I know enough about
the IVBW to know it *was* one of those.
But I'm the only one who knows. Does that make me feel less
fulfilled? Not for an instant. Social affirmation is not essential
to appreciating beauty, mystery, or miracle.
Martin Jensen
...but a nice, sharp, obviously unretouched close-up photo wouldn't
hurt, either, would it??? In fact, in this instance (IMHO), it would
make a HUGE difference...
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Oh, yes! Jan. If I had that photo, I'd be tempted to post it.
So I carry my digital P&S with me in those woods every time.
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jadel
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On Aug 29, 9:15 am, maryann kolb <mk...@sc.tds.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:53:13 -0500, Lanny Chambers
la...@hummingbirds.net> wrote:
Yes, that's all there is to birding for some folks. We call them
"listers," and they frequently know (and care) nothing about birds
except field marks. If you get into birding, you will encounter such
people; *their* field marks are expensive, drab-colored clothing with
lots of pockets, floppy hats to match, $1000 binoculars, dour
dispositions, and above all clipboards. I doubt anyone in this newsgroup
falls into that category. :-)
Come on Lanny, that's not fair! I fall somewhere in your description
except for the not caring or knowing about birds. I have the drab
clothing, the many pocketed vest, the sloppy hat and expensive
binoculars. I do not have a dour disposition and I don't know any
birders that do! There may certainly be people like you describe ...
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More than you think.
I encountered a number in just one visit to Merritt Island, people
with pricey spotting scopes, sour faces and sour attitudes who seemed
exasperated that mere mortals dared to share the public roads and
trails with them.
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Not4wood
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| Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:30 pm Post subject: Re: New to Birding and have a question |
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Thank you all, you guys are a hoot. I can picture Mr Drysdale and his
secretary dressing up in those drab clothes to go "Bird Watching". If
anybody is a little young to remember those names, the TV show was called
"The Beverly Hillbillies".
I have been carrying a camera with me since I was an early teenager and I'm
talking since about 71-72 so walking around with my camera at my side even
with my 70-300 VR zoom is not a problem.
Being in the raw woods, hearing them sing and or watching them fly about
when fishing or just hiking I would say I have missed the opportunity to
shoot some wild birds but just barely a memory now. If I had a camera with
me while fishing, I dont know if I would have gotten that shot anyway LOL.
Funny about what you wear while walking thru the woods, instead of those
goofy clothes and hats I would say and remember now, I am not a birder but
someone who has spent a lot of time walking/hiking/fishing in the woods to
just appreciate nature to just wear something this is very comfortable for
the temps and also bug spray. The only times I would say is to avoid bright
colors is when you do know that there is something major in the area and you
do not want to attrack a large animals attention.... and besides, if
something is in the area usually all the birds you do want to see leave real
fast. Its a good sign to move, and pay attention to your surroundings. No
small animals/birds and does the hair on the back of your neck stand up???
Mark G
Not4wood
PS As far as Photography sites go, I am involved in several Photo Forums.
If anybody needs any information about Photography you could go to
Photocamel which is one of the best Photography Forums on the net. Very
organized including a section for birds. I also am a member of Elements
Village which is a good friendly place but more made for some people who are
into building and photo editing projects. Some true photographers but a lot
are more into editing then learning how to shoot correctly in camera.
A fast definition of Photoshoping an image. I agree but because of the
nature of the technology, all digital images need to be sharpened even a
little bit before they go to either on the web or to print. Using ACR or
Adobe Camera Raw to slightly alter the image to bring it back into a good
image for viewing is fine. But I do agree that altering an image to such a
point as to change the natural appearance of the bird to make it look much
better then what nature supplied I think is wrong as well as what has been
mentioned.
Thanks all.
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| "Not4wood" <no_mgottes@spam_verizon.net> wrote in message
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| >I have been a new lurker here for about a week and I am brand new to
| >Birding
| > and have a question for the group;
| >
| > I have been both an amature and pro photographer for more years then I
| > would
| > like to remember. When your taking notes of what bird, when, where and
| > I've
| > seen several quotes of people "saw a bird and how beautiful it was". My
| > question is how come a lot of you aren't taking images of these
wonderous
| > birds (some do but from what I understand a lot aren't)? If you are
this
| > hasn't been mentioned in the quote in this usenet group and am curious
as
| > to
| > how do you prove what you saw and where if you have no visual proof?
| >
| > We just came back from a Tour of Great Brittain and there was a woman
with
| > us who was a "Birder" and if I had gone somewhere and saw a bird that I
| > had
| > thought was curious I ended up taking its picture and then we would try
| > and
| > look it up in her book "Birds of Great Brittain. I actually ran across
| > several birds that I had never heard of before and it ended up being a
| > real
| > thrill to look up the bird and use the photo as reference to find out
more
| > information.
| >
| > I have checked out the net and have found seveal organizations
pertaining
| > to
| > Birding. Obviously you are mostly Birders first and photographers
second
| > and I am coming into this obsession of birds from the other side and
find
| > it
| > both fasinating and frustrating. I have seen some very amazing images
of
| > birds and have heard about the Digiscope method. Waiting patiently
| > watching
| > a bird to see if you could acquire the perfect shot and painstakingly
| > sitting in the water or trying to stay silent to as to not scare off
this
| > bird or the others that you dont see is purely amazing to me.
| >
| > Now I can see that your not getting real up close and personal as to the
| > birds safety and comfort or to try and not get too close to the nesting
| > areas but using a P&S camera attached to a Spotting Scope is defeating
the
| > purpose of a great shot. The Nikon Coolpix line of cameras are very
good
| > and can see why Nikon is the recommended line of choice. I do like
Nikon
| > and have a Nikon DSLR and am interested in using this camera to capture
| > the
| > moment and I am interested in learning the techniques you have become
used
| > to for Photography. Are there places on the net that I can learn from
in
| > these methods or skills?
| >
| > Here are a couple examples, please let me know what you think and how I
| > can
| > improve.
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| > Thank you in advance for your time.
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| > If you have any further questions, please, feel free to e-mail me.
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| > Mark G
| > Not4wood
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| I'm a photographer, and have taken many good photos of birds.
Hummingbirds
| are my favorite.
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| In order to take pictures of birds, one must possess several good things,
| the least of which is a good camera and luck.
|
| Setting up to take birds is no small matter. Most amateur photogs don't
| have the glass (lenses) to photograph birds past a certain point, so their
| photos come up as a dot in a picture. In order for them to fill the
frame,
| you have to have a long lens or be close.
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| Watching birds is just that. No special equipment, save maybe a small
pair
| of binoculars, and the ten and twenty dollar variety do fine.
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| It's work to photograph birds. Plain and simple. But I do like it, and
| have hundreds of photos. I haven't done a lot this year, but still see a
| Canon 40D on the event horizon for next year if my ship comes in and I'm
at
| the right dock.
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| Watching birds just involves the simplest things. Cameras are not in that
| category.
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| MHO, YMMV.
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maryann kolb
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On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:53:13 -0500, Lanny Chambers
<lanny@hummingbirds.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Yes, that's all there is to birding for some folks. We call them
"listers," and they frequently know (and care) nothing about birds
except field marks. If you get into birding, you will encounter such
people; *their* field marks are expensive, drab-colored clothing with
lots of pockets, floppy hats to match, $1000 binoculars, dour
dispositions, and above all clipboards. I doubt anyone in this newsgroup
falls into that category.
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Come on Lanny, that's not fair! I fall somewhere in your description
except for the not caring or knowing about birds. I have the drab
clothing, the many pocketed vest, the sloppy hat and expensive
binoculars. I do not have a dour disposition and I don't know any
birders that do! There may certainly be people like you describe but
of all the birders I know not one falls into the category you
described. (I do know one birder who tends to see birds that aren't
there but that's a whole different problem!) I am a lister. I have
always been a lister. I think it's in my DNA. When my Mother died I
found in her stuff old notebooks of mine that I kept as a child in
which I listed the movies I saw, the states I had visited, the dogs I
knew etc.
As for not caring about birds I put my money and often my vote where
my mouth (and my heart) is. are?
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maryann kolb
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On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:57:49 GMT, "Curtis Croulet"
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| Quote: | I don't keep a list. (I keep thinking I should. But like drilling for
oil, it would take too long to make a difference, and at nearly 3-score
and ten I might not live long enough to be worth the bother.
Most of my "birdwatching" occurs while I'm doing something
else--driving, sitting here reading, something. I almost never
"birdwatch", per se...etc.
I probably should do a formal list, but I haven't. I carry a notebook and
write down what I see, but I've never sat down and extracted all of the
species to see what I really have. Yes, I know, Lanny, we were all taught
in bio field courses to keep both a journal *and* a species log. I'm OK
with the journal; I've fallen short on the log. In one of my old Peterson
field guies there's a check-off type of list, and a lot of birds are
checked, but for many of them, I have no recollection of when and where I
saw them. Were they good sightings, based upon what I know now? I have no
idea. I may as well not have bothered. I do enjoy identifying a bird from
nothing more than a "tweet." It's easier here at home, where I have a good
idea of what to expect. At this time of year, I often identify hummingbirds
that way. We've had a Black-chin or two lately, but I've only heard them
and seen the streaking dot as it fades into the distance.
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I was looking through my bird journal just recently to try and
remember something. What I ended up remembering were the places I
saw--deserts, mountains, oceans, the people I met and the absolute
heart stopping wonder of seeing a beautiful bird, old or new.
Mary Ann
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maryann kolb
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On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:22:17 -0400, "Martin Jensen"
<hawkeye96@comcast.net> wrote:
| Quote: | I know the Pileated Woodpecker; it wasn't that. I know enough about the IVBW to
know it *was* one of those.
But I'm the only one who knows. Does that make me feel less fulfilled? Not for
an instant. Social affirmation is not essential to appreciating beauty,
mystery, or miracle.
Martin Jensen
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I understand, Martin, but I do wish you had that picture. What a lift
it would give to those of us who look and wish and wonder. I sat one
afternoon on a hummock deep in a swamp here in South Carolina feeding
mosquitoes and watching birds and I kept feeling that there should be
a parakeet in that jungle--just a lone pair of Carolina Parakeets
somewhere.
Mary Ann
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Laurence Sheldon
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SteveB wrote:
| Quote: | Come on Lanny, that's not fair! I fall somewhere in your description
except for the not caring or knowing about birds. I have the drab
clothing, the many pocketed vest, the sloppy hat and expensive
binoculars. I do not have a dour disposition and I don't know any
birders that do! There may certainly be people like you describe ...
More than you think.
I encountered a number in just one visit to Merritt Island, people
with pricey spotting scopes, sour faces and sour attitudes who seemed
exasperated that mere mortals dared to share the public roads and
trails with them.
And gripe if anyone is within two miles of them scaring off "their" birds.
I think I met those two. More than once, in fact.
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Just to be sure we are as fair as can be....
A few years back my wife and I made two cruises to Alaska and on one of
them there was a pretty large population in the passengers who were
"birders" (from Great Britain, maybe--I don't think I ever found out for
sure.
It was clear to me that I was out of their league, but not because they
made an issue of it--quite the contrary.
Sure enough it is was clear that they knew each other and their relative
exploits, and talked about such--and would get into sometimes heated
debates about what we were looking at.
But. But! Most of the time, they seemed to worry about my sight line,
or, upon seeing me thumbing frantically through a bird book would
quietly say "I think that is a ....., why don't you pay attention to
what we see, and I'll help you find it in your book...".
Or seeing me missing something they thought was significant would say
"Do you see the .... just above the water...?
Quite pleasant folks, and some of them were outstanding story-tellers.
I think there are jerks everywhere, but they are out-numbered by goo d
folk most of the time. It is important to identify and dismiss the
jerks, but not to generalize or fixate on them?
"fixate". Do people still say that?
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"jadel" <delcolja@ab.edu> wrote in message
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On Aug 29, 9:15 am, maryann kolb <mk...@sc.tds.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:53:13 -0500, Lanny Chambers
la...@hummingbirds.net> wrote:
Yes, that's all there is to birding for some folks. We call them
"listers," and they frequently know (and care) nothing about birds
except field marks. If you get into birding, you will encounter such
people; *their* field marks are expensive, drab-colored clothing with
lots of pockets, floppy hats to match, $1000 binoculars, dour
dispositions, and above all clipboards. I doubt anyone in this newsgroup
falls into that category. :-)
Come on Lanny, that's not fair! I fall somewhere in your description
except for the not caring or knowing about birds. I have the drab
clothing, the many pocketed vest, the sloppy hat and expensive
binoculars. I do not have a dour disposition and I don't know any
birders that do! There may certainly be people like you describe ...
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More than you think.
I encountered a number in just one visit to Merritt Island, people
with pricey spotting scopes, sour faces and sour attitudes who seemed
exasperated that mere mortals dared to share the public roads and
trails with them.
J. Del Col
And gripe if anyone is within two miles of them scaring off "their" birds.
I think I met those two. More than once, in fact.
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